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37 chief

04-19-2007 10:30:47




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Here is a question about social secutity maybe someone can help me with. I have about 10 months until I can collect full benefits, at 65 and 10 months or I can start now, and loose 200.00 a month from full retirement monthley pay. The 11 months I would get now looks like a lot of money. but would it be worth it. The SS person is pushing taking the money now, this is what makes me a little nervous. Thanks for any info. Getting old comes with just more problems. Stan

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Eric SEI

04-20-2007 19:08:40




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to 37 chief, 04-19-2007 10:30:47  
I've read some very good advice here, but one very important element has been left out.

How old are your relatives living to?

If nobody lives past 70, collect immediately. On the other hand, one of my uncles is 91 and undergoing chemotherapy. On my Mom's side of the family 90+ is common, Granddad was I think was about 78 with a daughter in HS when he sold the farm and moved to town. With modern medicine I may collect for a long time so the difference could really add up.

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Jimmy King

04-19-2007 22:49:08




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to 37 chief, 04-19-2007 10:30:47  
I turned 65 in Nov, 2006 my full retirement is 65 and 8 months. I was able to start drawing in Jan first payment Feb. 28 because my birthday is Nov 27. Each payment after is on the 4 Wed, of each month. No pentalty until $34400 is earned and that must be by the end of July, after that no pentalty. I only lost about $20 a month by taking it the first of the year.



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dave guest

04-19-2007 19:00:33




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to 37 chief, 04-19-2007 10:30:47  
Sign up before the money is all gone. I did. What if you wait and they cut benefits?



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skipper

04-19-2007 17:49:33




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to 37 chief, 04-19-2007 10:30:47  
T-Bone -- Good to see you back. Miss your comments. Chief, I am thinking you already have this thought out, but I got to ask - Are you getting any medical/ health coverage from your work now that you can not get from SS till you reach full retirement age in 11 more months?? I don't know when full medicare/medicade kicks in, but thought it wasn't till full SS started. You would be without full medical coverage if that was correct. Others would know the facts on this.
Skipper

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37 chief

04-19-2007 21:37:43




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to skipper, 04-19-2007 17:49:33  
I have been getting health insurance through my company since I retired, but that stops when I reach 65 medicare age. I can sign up for Social security full benefits at 65, and 10 mo. Stan



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T_Bone

04-19-2007 19:30:40




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to skipper, 04-19-2007 17:49:33  
Hi Skipper,

Ya it's been really busy here with building a new house, drilling a well, etc.

Medicare does not start until after you've been retired/disabled for 2yrs. It's automatic, meaning you don't have to sign up for it, that is part A&B. Any add on insurance has to be purchased seperatly, but watch what Medicare offers for secondary ins as most of it is not good ins for the money they charge for it.

I'm in poor health but only took part A&B and I still save money by not taking any other insurance that Medicare offers. A person would have to be on there death bed to make that pay out.

T_Bone

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T_Bone

04-19-2007 16:37:04




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to 37 chief, 04-19-2007 10:30:47  
Hi Stan,

Let's assume you'll get $1600/mth in 11months. That means now you would get $1400mth taking in the account the $200mth loss.

1400x11=$15,400

15400/200=77mths /12=6.41yrs to recoup your $200/mth loss you would have now.

That's why everyone said to take SSA at 62 as you will never make up the 3yrs of loss even tho it's a smaller amount each month.

Your call on the loss on 6.41yrs but I'm getting 4.91% on a brokage money market fund or approx another $5765 loss over 6.41yrs when just considering the $200mth loss. There's other interest baring accounts that pay better than 4.91%

Always file for SSA benefits early. It's never too soon.

T_Bone

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jmt Hou

04-19-2007 13:51:00




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to 37 chief, 04-19-2007 10:30:47  
In the year that you turn 65 you can start to collect if you do not earn more than $33,000.
After you reach full age there is no restriction.
Go to th SS office and they will calculate the month that you can start based on your income. They will prorate you ernings so you will not show erning over the $33.000 I turned 65 in November and started to collect in Feb.



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BobReeves

04-19-2007 13:46:36




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to 37 chief, 04-19-2007 10:30:47  
Turned 62 in Jan, received my first check in March.. Anyone else see that they cheat you out of two months.. You have to wait a month for the first check then you have to return the check they give you the month you die..

Anyway, I signed all my stock in my businesss over to the wife. I'm still a little involved but she receives all the income. We are incoporated so it was an easy transfer..

And yes, at this point you might as well wait till you are 65, like has been said you should have done it at 62.

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Don LC

04-19-2007 12:11:35




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to 37 chief, 04-19-2007 10:30:47  
You should have started at 62....but if you only have 11 months to 65,wait don't screw up what you waited for..... .good luck Don



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old

04-19-2007 12:00:31




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to 37 chief, 04-19-2007 10:30:47  
Well since you only have 10 months to wait my self I would. You figure the 10 months would most like be well worth it. $200 time 10 is only $2000 but if you live to be 90 that $200 is $2400 a year and after 25 years that adds up fast and with the way prices are going and the cost of income raise you get each year its only 3-4% at best so stick with it for the 10 months you will be $$ ahead. Wish I could have but when a doctor says you retire you do just that. Plus as long as you only make $750 per month after you retire on the side you don't have to worry about them takeing $$ from you

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Walt Davies

04-19-2007 11:57:08




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to 37 chief, 04-19-2007 10:30:47  
i would think less than a year you might as well wait $200 can be a lot when retired. I went out at 50 so i took a big loss but I'm darn glad that i did. It's been a great 18 years so far.
Ron



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Tom in TN

04-19-2007 11:30:08




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to 37 chief, 04-19-2007 10:30:47  
Stan,

James in OK has a very important point. If you have had any income so far in 2007, and/or if you expect to have any more income in 2007 that is not your Social Security payment, you really need to look at the impact it will have on how much you will actually be able to draw.

SS has a really stinky way of recouping that income that you have already made and/or expect to make. They take all of the money that they think you will lose as a result of your extra income FIRST. Then they pay subsequent checks AFTER they've recouped ALL of what they think is going to be theirs.

I'm soon to be 63 but I work a part-time job and it isn't worth it to me to start collecting now. If I die before full eligibility, I'll think that I made a bad decision, but if I live long enough to make it to full retirement, it will be a much better deal for me.

Good luck,

Tom in TN

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Jim in NC

04-19-2007 11:13:11




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to 37 chief, 04-19-2007 10:30:47  
You can go to AnalyzeNow.com and calculate it for yourself.



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Vern-MI

04-19-2007 11:10:36




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to 37 chief, 04-19-2007 10:30:47  
I started at age 62. Did the math and it would have taken me 22 years to catch up if I had waited until I was 65. I don't think I will make it to 87.



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Larry D.

04-19-2007 18:32:11




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to Vern-MI, 04-19-2007 11:10:36  
Vern...I will be 62 in may, i think i will "Hang it Up'Too... As it's not a benefit to wait Larry



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james in ok

04-19-2007 11:09:20




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to 37 chief, 04-19-2007 10:30:47  
If you are going to do any kind of work or draw any kind of compensation other than interest, you have to pay back 2 dollars for every 3 dollars you earn. After full retirement, you can continue to draw compensation from whatever and draw full benefits. Or at least that was what I was told in Oklahoma. As I wanted to continue operating a small business, I chose to wait. James



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Rich Va

04-19-2007 10:52:42




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to 37 chief, 04-19-2007 10:30:47  
I'll start collecting mine when I'm 58. Don't you think paying in for 40 years is enough.



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Gerald J.

04-19-2007 10:40:27




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to 37 chief, 04-19-2007 10:30:47  
Should have started three years ago. You probably won't live long enough for the extra per month to cover what you didn't get in the past three years.

Gerald J.



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Dave in Tx

04-19-2007 16:51:55




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to Gerald J., 04-19-2007 10:40:27  
I have to wait til 65 and ten months also, cause you can only make 11,600 per year before then, unless you turn 65 and ten in this calendar year.am 65 now [mar] but won't have the ten months in this year. Next january I can start drawing it.



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Don L C

04-19-2007 20:17:35




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 Re: O/T social security in reply to Dave in Tx, 04-19-2007 16:51:55  
Be sure to go in a couple a months early and get it all set up so when January comes its all ready..... .



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