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Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !!!

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D-C-741

04-07-2007 22:31:34




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Just saw on TV there was a Man that lived in up state New York, Age 61 Who Got Caught in a Post Hole Auger, and was Killed;He was found by his Son.




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joseph moore

04-11-2007 11:37:54




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
after 6 weeks I am still healing. raking leaves riding the long pile my 8N tilted and threw me off my cuff on the jeans got caught on shift lever, I hung like laundry..my wife saved me shutting tractor off..as the wheel was about to roll over my head.I hung on the clutch but the leaves were giving way..they were mixed wet and dry...broken ribs punctured lung crunched foot still wearing the boot.had my pant leg tore off years ago my the pto shaft..but I am still here at 83 so luck is with me...

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JTinNJ

04-10-2007 01:09:05




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
Anything with a PTO shaft that gets ahold of you will have no mercy.



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dave guest

04-08-2007 18:51:09




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
Called save a minute, lose your life. We all do dangerous things. Try not to.



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NothinbutaCAT!!

04-08-2007 11:11:29




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
I was up on the straw walkers of our old 8820 JD combine one morning picking sunflower stalks out of them.... and my cousin decided to hop in the cab and fire things up not knowing where i was. Well i rode the walkers all the way out the back... lucky we took the straw chopper off the night before because it was just plugging up with the tough stalks. I did suffer a dislocated shoulder when I landed on the ground. Thats the closest i have come to being chopped to little pieces.

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NE IA Dave

04-08-2007 11:05:09




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
We are all making the asumption that it was the PTO shaft. That could very well be the fact, but I have personaly dug three different folks out of the auger. The 3 piont diggers, usualy the cheaper ones will not dig so good in hard dirt, so everyone pushes down with their bodies on top. Once a short bolt or the flighting on the digger grabs your clothing it is to late. We do some work like that, and we use a long pipe wedged in the digger to give you weight from a distance. I find it amazing how many very smart people think they can run the control lever fast enough to stop in case something goes wrong. I must say probably most of the folks that have gray hair, (or in my case just a little hair) have had a few close calls where we just got lucky. As much as we hate OSHA, they probably have saved a few of our hides if we just knew it. We all have seen some guys just pray for a accident, yet seem to skip over the top, or make it just in time. Injurys are many times for a extended peroid of time, and death on this earth seems so final. Just plain sad when avoidable as most accidents are.

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NothinbutaCAT!!

04-08-2007 10:59:31




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
It is really quite simple, if it moves, stay the hell away from it!



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ric1

04-08-2007 10:19:00




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
if you know anyone who has a post driver they need to put a safety cable/chain on them so the top adjustable link cannot be accidently unscrewed letting the post driver go crashing to the ground lost a sister that way



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nickg

04-08-2007 09:39:18




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
it is always upsetting to see a man injured or die from somethng that is so easily preventable. The truth is that we all get comfortable around our equipment and can forget how dangerous things on the farm can be. We do it every day and probably just don't realize we even do it. even the most experienced farmer can make that one fatal mistake that he knows better than to be doing what it is he is doing. We just have to watch our selves and take time to do it safe so our families dont' have to go threw what this mans family has to.

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mj

04-08-2007 08:08:19




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
Seems like the responses to posts like this run the gamut from "Sorry ..... too bad ..... unfortunate" to "no big deal ..... dummy ..... etc." All I can say is 'Rest in Peace'.



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Turke Bros. Farms

04-08-2007 08:17:14




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to mj, 04-08-2007 08:08:19  
What is the big deal was not directed at the fact of the Mans death that is sad and remorseful. What it was directed at is why people play with a live shaft.



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mj

04-08-2007 08:48:44




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to Turke Bros. Farms, 04-08-2007 08:17:14  
Guess I didn't 'get' that.



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Turke Bros. Farms

04-08-2007 09:25:07




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to mj, 04-08-2007 08:48:44  
No biggie, Happy Easter to You and Your Family.



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mj

04-08-2007 09:55:10




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to Turke Bros. Farms, 04-08-2007 09:25:07  
The same to you and yours. :-)



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Turke Bros. Farms

04-08-2007 07:57:44




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
What is the big deal? TURN OFF THE PTO...SHUT THE TRACTOR OFF... GET OFF THE TRACTOR THEN MONKEY WITH IT! Most shafts will spin freely in neutral, easly enough to investigate or remove debris.



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Billy NY

04-08-2007 07:08:56




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
By any chance, do you recall where in NY this happened ?

Thinking about that kind of implement, might have been a good thing that ours was stolen when I was a kid, hoping that the thief or whoever it was sold to got wrapped into it which is fitting but a terrible thing to wish upon someone.

I don't like using those alone when dealing with hard soils, as you are apt to get drawn in whils't working on a difficult hole, possibly too close, get distracted by something, can happen to anyone. We use a 4x4 accross the top and are able to put some additional pressure with 2 people, one on each side, at a safe distance. For what they do as a tool, I think you are far better with a small 3 pt backhoe, 6'-8' depth range, a whole lot safer and a lot more useful. Fighting with a post hole digger that can bite back real hard, I don't see the logic, they work great in some soils but other types can be such a waste of time, frustrating and some real hard work. For the money, productivity, decreased hazards, there is a better tool for the job, costs more but works a whole lot better.

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Bob N.Y.

04-08-2007 08:32:51




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to Billy NY, 04-08-2007 07:08:56  
Channel 9 news said Manlius.



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Billy NY

04-08-2007 11:09:32




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to Bob N.Y., 04-08-2007 08:32:51  
Some information, I think it goes without saying that hope and prayers are sent for this mans family to cope with this tragedy. It's a reminder, a terrible one. Lost a relative last year, pinned under a tractor while trying to unstuck a dozer.



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Leland

04-08-2007 06:46:49




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
Sounds like these want to be's and hobby farmers should be required to take tractor safety classes before they can lawfully operate tractors . when I was 13 I took one thru 4H and the videos still come to mind 35 years later .and when it comes to pto's I always have this picture come to mind of a man showing his manhood totally destroyed and shredded by a pto shaft he straddled ,and the 185 lb dummy getting throwin into a pto running a 1000 full throtle and it wrapping him around the shaft before throwing him 30' into the air .This was the best course I have ever taken in my life it stays with you and makes you think .

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Dan in Ore

04-08-2007 06:36:33




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
I built a homemade piece of equipment and the drive shaft went right past the operators platform. One day I came to the house with a new pair of cut-off levis only on the left leg. Next day, built a guard for the shaft. Sore ankle for a few days, got real lucky.



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Coloken

04-08-2007 06:17:38




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
Had my timex tore of my arm and slung 30 feet once. I never, never, and you should not either, ever wear a watch band that will not break away.

Yes, post hole digger, and yes, it "kept on running"



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Jimmy King

04-08-2007 05:36:30




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
Country Music Singer and Fiddler Charley Daniels got his arm broke in several places a few years ago in a post hole digger. He wasn"t sure for a while he would ever be able to play the fiddle again.



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RMinVA

04-08-2007 04:50:39




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
I know a lady that had her arm pulled off at the shoulder with a post hole digger pto shaft. She was helping her husband. Soil was hard and dry and she was trying to put some weight on the auger.

Worked with a man that lost his arm in a corn picker. Working alone he was hung in the machine for over 3 hours before he was found.

I remember another guy that got in some barbed wire with a Bush Hog rotary cutter. He got off the tractor to try and pull the wire out. The wire wraped around his legs and the cutter blades pulled him under the deck. He lost both legs.

It's always sad when it could have been prevented.

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RAW in IA

04-08-2007 03:27:56




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
Had a neighbor years ago who got caught in pto of his 706 (I think). It was idling and he was lucky to be able to grab the pto lever on the way down and shut it off. Very lucky!



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dan hill

04-08-2007 03:06:59




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
A woman was killed by a post hole digger a few years ago here.She had rented it and just didnt know the dangers of PTOs.



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bradley martin

04-08-2007 01:56:30




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 Re: Man Dies ,This Afternoon in a Farm Accident !! in reply to D-C-741, 04-07-2007 22:31:34  
What a tradgedy. My father came close to the same fate years ago but was lucky enough to be able to walk to house naked from the waist down (his overall bib was still intact as were the sleeves of his shirt, everything else wrapped on the PTO). You can never be too careful.



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