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TomCNY

04-07-2007 20:19:58




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Now that I'm retired, I'm ready to add a heater to my workshop. It is 24'X32' with 9-foot ceiling, drywall over a wood frame with 3.5" insulation in the walls and 6" in the ceiling, sits on floating concrete slab. Wanting to preserve as much floor space as possible, I've been seriously considering the ceiling mounted LP fueled 75,000 BTU "Big Maxx" Mr. Heater from Northern Tool. I'm not looking to maintain heat all the time; just during the daytime when I'm working on my tractor or antique truck, or need to give my wife some time to herself. I'd like to be able to work out there even when the outdoor temps are at 0 degrees F. here in Central New York State. Anybody have experience with those heaters? Do they work well? Am I on the wrong track? Advice accepted. Tom

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dave guest

04-08-2007 18:54:05




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 Re: Shop Heater Advice in reply to TomCNY, 04-07-2007 20:19:58  
Ceiling mounted better because gasoline fumes only rise couple of feet off the floor or so I am told.



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RickL

04-08-2007 10:19:31




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 Re: Shop Heater Advice in reply to TomCNY, 04-07-2007 20:19:58  
In that size of building I would use a low clearwence radiant tube heater. Have them in my shop 4 total units. Low clearence unit is in the office part of shop love it. No way would I go to forced air units after having these.



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Jim in N M

04-08-2007 09:28:39




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 Re: Shop Heater Advice in reply to TomCNY, 04-07-2007 20:19:58  
Tom, Look into "Gorden-Ray" Infra-red. It's vary cheap to run and can run on propane. It's a long tube type , It's the berries. Jim



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in-too-deep

04-08-2007 09:16:32




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 Re: Shop Heater Advice in reply to TomCNY, 04-07-2007 20:19:58  
Just a side note, and I don't mean to change the subject, but what do you have for an antique truck?



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TomCNY

04-08-2007 14:25:17




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 Re: Shop Heater Advice in reply to in-too-deep, 04-08-2007 09:16:32  
The truck is a '37 Dodge Brothers MC (1/2 ton pickup). Actually, I have two of them. I bought them along with a '39 Plymouth 1/2 ton about 12 years ago. Pulled all three out of a field after watching them sit there for 6 years among several old Cockshutts. The old farmer who owned them had ended up with more projects than he had time or money for. I've since sold the '39 after getting it running and registered. One of the '37s is strickly for parts, but the other is very solid, for what it is, and nearly complete. Thought I could get it on the road for it's 70th birthday, but that won't happen 'cause I've got too many other projects myself! At least it's under cover in the meantime. I enjoy just taking a few minutes to look at it and wrap on the fenders and hood when I'm in the shop. As they say, "They don't make 'em like that any more!" Tom

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Bill in NorthCentral PA

04-08-2007 06:30:51




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 Re: Shop Heater Advice in reply to TomCNY, 04-07-2007 20:19:58  
A friend has a "Hot Dawg" heater, hanging gas, vented, for about five years in his wood / automitive shop. No problems and he loves it. Garage is insulated about fair, and he turns it on 10 mintues before going in and it works well all year. Northern PA area.

Enjoy retirement.

Bill



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Mn Dave

04-08-2007 06:12:27




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 Re: Shop Heater Advice in reply to TomCNY, 04-07-2007 20:19:58  
I built a shop in '83 and heated it with wood, and then for backup I used a LB White, which has no vent. I started to notice that my tools were getting rusty and finally someone said to throw that LB White out and I did as it was adding moisture to the building by not being vented. I then installed a hanging vented LP furnace and has been there ever since, with no more problems. I do have a LB White in the farrowing barn and it works great there as there is lots of moisture in the barn to begin with and you don't notice the little extra moisture from the furnace.

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Midwest redneck

04-08-2007 04:07:23




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 Re: Shop Heater Advice in reply to TomCNY, 04-07-2007 20:19:58  
At where I used to work we had a hanging ceiling Reznor unit (natural gas) and it worked great for our shipping area that was 40 x40 and 14' ceiling.



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Mike M

04-08-2007 02:43:07




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 Re: Shop Heater Advice in reply to TomCNY, 04-07-2007 20:19:58  
I have one of those Big Maxx heaters. I didn't think it was that many BTU ,but I don't remember for sure. The one you are looking at is a power vented model isn't it ? Mine is and the moisture goes out the vent and I sloped mine to drain outside and ran it horizontal out through the wall. Had it a couple of years now and so far ok. I have a 32x48 well insulated and it seems to have no problem keeping it at 50* here in northern Ohio.

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TomCNY

04-08-2007 08:23:16




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 Re: Shop Heater Advice in reply to Mike M, 04-08-2007 02:43:07  
Yes, Mike, this model does have a power vent. There is a smaller model, 45,000 BTU, but for $70 difference, I wouldn't want to come up short on capacity to heat the building. I also appreciate those who commented about the moisture issue. I tried heating one winter with a construction style heater (not a salamander) on a 20# tank. My tools did collect condensation, and when the outdoor temps dropped into and below the lower 20's that small LP tank couldn't produce enough gas to keep the burner running for more than 3-5 minutes at a time until I had the building partially warmed up! Tom

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MSD

04-07-2007 22:14:35




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 Re: Shop Heater Advice in reply to TomCNY, 04-07-2007 20:19:58  
Some of them gas fired furnaces can add moisture to a shop. The LP Whites did I know. My 2 sons use electric ones that hang from the ceiling. Their garages are 24x30 with 9 ft. ceilings, 3.5 insulation in the sides and 6 in the ceiling. You can keep it as warm as you want with them. Turn it down at night and not worry about gas flame if your doing something in there you probably shouldn't. I used one to heat my entire house one week while waiting for a new furnace to be put in. Was in Feb. in SD. so it wasn't all that warm out. They have a blower and run quiet. About $225 for this model they have.

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TomCNY

04-08-2007 08:31:55




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 Re: Shop Heater Advice in reply to MSD, 04-07-2007 22:14:35  
I am concerned about the moisture, MSD, see my reply above to Mike. You make a good point about the gas flame being a potential hazard. With a gas heater running, I'm really not sure at what point I need to be worried about gasoline fumes from the tractor or truck, or vapors from the occasional rattle can, warming the place up more than I want to think about! Tom



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Clint Youse MO

04-07-2007 22:13:00




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 Re: Shop Heater Advice in reply to TomCNY, 04-07-2007 20:19:58  
The LB White heaters would work good they are propane or natural gas and can get them in various btus hang from the ceiling with chains IT is what we use in the HOG barns they are quite and efficent.

CLint



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