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Coloken

04-07-2007 18:49:46




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Fellows, please, please use those seat belts. I know, I usually don't. But we lost a good friend Friday evening. Going home after a long day helping a friend at his farm sale. Drove off the road, rolled and was thrown out. 45 years old with wife and 2 little girls. Was a big farmer with every thing to live for. Was all ways there to help.




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Ron in OH

04-08-2007 16:30:13




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 Re: Seat belts in reply to Coloken, 04-07-2007 18:49:46  
In 1980 I was involved in a head on collison. Fortunately I was wearing a seat belt. I received a broken hip, broken arm and severe internal injuries. Spent 10 weeks in traction for the hip to repair itself. I consider myself very fortunate. I heeled up and lived a very good life. The seat belt was no doubt a big savior for me. I was always a believer and I use them faithfully.



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NE IA Dave

04-08-2007 12:04:31




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 Re: Seat belts helmets in reply to Coloken, 04-07-2007 18:49:46  
I am very fortunate to have met a EMS trainer even before we had ever heard the EMS termanology, and seat belts were required. He taught a class on digging out folks from auto accidents, and told us all to take from the class a valuable observation. He said not to pay any attention to the patrolmens advise of wearing seat belts if we so chosed. He said each and everyone of us should go to the local auto salvage yard and count what we refer to as stars on the windshields of autos. He further went on to mention the angle your head would be forced into upon a front impact. His referance was the top of the head being forced backwards dealing with the top of all windshields slanting backward at the top. I have forgot a few times, but I do have every intention of buckling up.

Just last evening I delt with a 52 year old friend that used to argue with me about the #@**# government not being able to force us to wear seat belts and helmets. He is on total disability, many times it is imposible to follow his conversation, he is totaly bankrupt with a excess of probably $120,000 in unpaid hospital bills-(after insurance). Yes, it was only about twenty MPH driving into the sun on his new motorcycle. He to this day still mentions that he could have broke his neck if he was wearing a helmet. I guess he still is as smart as the pavment he bumped his head on. Not so much as a stitch in his head, or bandage, just slight road rash.

It makes me very proud to have refused my son when he turned fourteen and could aford his first moped. Good ol unpopular dad said a helmet on the head before the engine was started or no moped being started. NO EXCEPTIONS was my final coment regardless of anyones age. He was bullheaded and sold his moped the next week because his buddies made fun of him. I am proud that me, his dear ol dad was as bulheaded as the son.

I wish they would research on how to make helmets cool so all the kids with 4 wheelers would want a fanny flag and a helmet. I'm a old man who can't seem to retire from the EMS and fire department, yet I still get tears in my eyes like the ladies do everytime we go to accidents involving kids or teanagers. Many times it is way to late to kick mom and dad in the backside for not taking control. It seems harder to shut my big mouth when a mother is screaming for us not to let her kid die as we lay a blanket over the motionless body.

Sorry folks, I just get this way, and now my mind goes farther yet on the subject of those very inexpensive life jackets and smoke detectors. Best just wait on those so you can all eat the easter candy that was origanly intended for your kids and grand kids. Have a Happy and safe easter.

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SDE

04-08-2007 07:19:37




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 Re: Seat belts in reply to Coloken, 04-07-2007 18:49:46  
My cousin was thrown out of the back seat of a convertible when the driver overcorrected from dropping on to the shoulder of the road. The car ran over him and he died later.

When I was married, my wife refused to wear a seat belt when I was driving. She said it would be my fault if she was killed. Go figure.

SDE



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Tim B from MA

04-08-2007 06:58:59




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 Re: Seat belts in reply to Coloken, 04-07-2007 18:49:46  
Many years ago a neighbor's 19 year old son was four wheeling in his jeep, and hit something - a tree or a mound - he was not wearing a seat belt, he got thrown forward, his fourhead hit the steering wheel and snapped his neck and died.

According to his passanger, they were not going fast. As I understand it, there was not a scratch on the jeep or on the boy. He looked like he was sitting there sleeping, but he was dead.

For everytime there is someone who claims a seat belt would have killed them - there are hundreds of times when the seat belt would have saved someone.

I started wearing one in my twenties, I feel naked without one these days.

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hay

04-08-2007 06:37:17




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 Re: Seat belts in reply to Coloken, 04-07-2007 18:49:46  
i was in a rollover accident in 1967 in a small 1962 mercury comet without seatbelts. we hit a culvert end at about 30 mph and rolled over twice. we both ended up in the backseat and some folks down the street came and helped us out. NOT A SCRATCH on either of us. darn lucky. even the deputy that investigated the accident said seatbelts would have probably killed both of us because the roof was caved in so badly. i started wearing seatbelts after that accident and still do to this day. ya just never know how fast and furious an accident can be. there is no time to think.

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John M

04-08-2007 06:17:24




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 Re: Seat belts in reply to Coloken, 04-07-2007 18:49:46  
In ALOT of states its the law, Im a firm believer in them, but why should it be law if they arent going to make motorcycle riders wear helmets. I know in some states it is, but here in SC its not. Im not against riders, Im one myself and wear a helmet, but IMO if you have to wear a belt in the car by law, then wear a helmet on a bike by law!



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Steve Crum

04-08-2007 21:25:50




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 Re: Seat belts in reply to John M, 04-08-2007 06:17:24  
I'm not a biker myself, but I was shocked when Pa. made helmets optional. A cop friend put this into perspective. "depends on whether the family wants an open casket funeral or a closed casket funeral". The way people drive these days, I don't feel real secure in my old F-150! (with a seatbelt)



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04-08-2007 05:44:42




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 Re: Seat belts... another success story in reply to Coloken, 04-07-2007 18:49:46  
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This happened 3 weeks ago today. #1 son and his 2 buddies were on their way back to college from a 'campout' and rounded a corner on a hill and hit a blowover off a hayfield. They were moving about 30 mph when they went into the guard rail. They were all wearing their seatbelts and walked away with big eyes and brown pants as their worst injuries. The machinery in an easy fix, The kids would not have been.
No off topic here, if we can't live with a degree of safety, old iron would be the least of our worries.

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Maark

04-08-2007 05:31:08




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 Re: Seat belts in reply to Coloken, 04-07-2007 18:49:46  
$83.00 fine for not wearing a seat belt in Iowa.



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Midwest redneck

04-08-2007 04:11:20




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 Re: Seat belts in reply to Coloken, 04-07-2007 18:49:46  
Is it against the law to NOT wear a seatbelt? If I am in a car or truck and I dont have the seatbelt on I feel as if I am going to fall out of the car. (38 years old now) and been wearing one since I was a little kid.



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Walt Davies

04-07-2007 21:55:38




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 Re: Seat belts in reply to Coloken, 04-07-2007 18:49:46  
I put a seat belt in my 1959 Renault Been wearing them every since I am a believer.
Walt



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Steven@AZ

04-07-2007 20:14:53




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 Re: Seat belts in reply to Coloken, 04-07-2007 18:49:46  
I rolled my car in March of 2000 - no seatbelt, thrown out and darn lucky to walk away with a broken ankle. I have since ALWAYS worn my seatbelt, even for a trip around the block.

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My brother rolled his pickup July of 2006, walked away with scuffs and bruises - still won't wear his seatbelt and it makes me angry that he is so selfish. Both vehiles are 98 Dodges, mine was a Neon and his a Ram Cummins.

Wear your seatbelt! It will save your life!

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730virgil

04-07-2007 20:04:46




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 Re: Seat belts in reply to Coloken, 04-07-2007 18:49:46  
use your seat belts and keep the roll cages on your skid loader too. nieghbor and i talked about that one day ken said sometimes you get bounced around pretty good on skid loader.



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Oldmax

04-07-2007 19:51:45




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 Re: Seat belts in reply to Coloken, 04-07-2007 18:49:46  
I have always used seat belts we were required to in Company trucks that I drove . Just got in habit .



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B-maniac

04-07-2007 19:35:38




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 Re: Seat belts in reply to Coloken, 04-07-2007 18:49:46  
You would be surprised how many people think they can just "hang on" or "brace" themselves when in an accident. You are HELPLESS when it hits something or worse yet rolls over. You ARE going to hit something and hit it hard. My son rolled and endoed his new Dakota Quad Cab for 50 yards before it stopped. Air bag is worthless in a roll over. It's deflated as quick as it inflates and will NOT keep you inside your vehicle when the doors are flailing open and centrifugal force is tearing you out of it. My son had his belt on and walked away with only a concussion (only?) I feel sorry for those who use the old excuse "when it's your time to go". Please... quit blaming God for your stupidity and if you won't belt up , for their sake , at least don't be stupid with your kids' lives too!! Please don't think I'm being insensitive to your friends passing , I'm not. I do feel double sorrow for his wife and kids though. An error in judgment , not an accident , has deprived them of a father and husband and will forever change their lives. Hopefully some good can come out of it. Maybe 10 or 15 family or freinds of his will now buckle up and thank him in their preyers every night for possibly saving their lives. "buckle up"! don't make him come down here!!!

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