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M vs Ford 9N

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earl zingraf

03-29-2007 20:36:03




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Have a IH M, Narrow front, Home made 3 pt hitch, Use the M for small plowing, discing, and bushhogging. also use a heavy blade for leveling a few times, also have a dam that I mow a few times a year. Steep and scary. can pick up a older worked on ford, new tires, WFE w/ a 3PT hitch, PTO. Would the Ford be better for mowing, and is the Ford as good for plowing and disking? I may be able to house both of them since the Ford is so small. I only work less than an acre for turkey and deer plots.
Thanks for your knowledge in advance.

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rrlund

03-30-2007 16:30:02




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to earl zingraf, 03-29-2007 20:36:03  
Just one word of caution. If you do brushhog with the Ford,make SURE you put an overriding PTO clutch on it. My son in laws dad thought the dealer was just trying to sell him something he didn't need. Then he turned up close to a stump,pushed in the clutch and it kept going,right over the stump and tipped over.



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earl Zingraf

03-30-2007 07:58:14




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to earl zingraf, 03-29-2007 20:36:03  
Thanks guys/Gals. I have mowed the dam vertical before, but thanks for the reminder. If I lived on the place, I would have animals, but I'm a once a week farmer, can't get my wife out in the woods. LOL. Am retiring in May, Hope to make it a 2 day "affair" w/ the land. Got 1/2 hour saddle time in w/ the M and it felt great. Earl



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georgeky

03-30-2007 10:37:47




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to earl Zingraf, 03-30-2007 07:58:14  
Don't run that thing straight up a hill if it is very steep they can and will come over backwards. I have lost two neighbors from that very thing. If it is to steep to go around it is to steep to go up.



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Oldmax

03-30-2007 05:38:36




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to earl zingraf, 03-29-2007 20:36:03  
Forget the 9N,2N or 8N for mowing on the side of a hill . The brakes are marginal at best on them also they have trans. PTO & don't have live hydsys . Get you a small newer 4wd and spread wheels out as far as you can get them . also use a sickle bar type Pittman's mower that will mow down the bank and stay on top if a groundhog has been around you & tractor might take a swim . I have a 1715 Ford /New Holland used to have a 8N
after mowing on WV hill sides with 1715 I sold the 8N there is no comparison.

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Joe(TX)

03-30-2007 05:28:07




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to earl zingraf, 03-29-2007 20:36:03  
The M has almost twice the horsepower and weight than a 9N. 9N's have the advantage of the lift, thats about it.
My Grandad used to say the 9N's were good to go gather the eggs if you didn't have too many eggs.



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Mike M

03-30-2007 04:45:31




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to earl zingraf, 03-29-2007 20:36:03  
Even going down a hill is very risky as when the bar treads try to hold back they are going the wrong way for traction and may loose grip and then you are gain up speed going down hill fast !

Learned this lesson a long time ago on a lawn mower with bar treads,lucky nothing was in the way at the bottom as I got there very fast.



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John A.

03-30-2007 04:34:50




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to earl zingraf, 03-29-2007 20:36:03  
earl, No need for the little Ford, personaally not my favorite. I will also say stay off the tank dam, B U T, If you are bent on mowing it. Start at the top where most tank dams have an access road, make straight runs 90 degrees opposed to the road. Going down ONLY! Never make angled runs, or runs that go longwise to the dam. Go slow! Reset your rear wheels as wide as possible to improve stability, add wts it you like. Use the principal of 90 degrees opposed to the slope and only make top-to-bottom runs, it will take longer but safty is paramount here.
Little fords can and do turn over too. So just being low to the ground doesn't mean it is always right. So just use good common sence and you should make out ok. But I still agree with Allan and the other, Go get a cheap Pony or couple or 3 goats and let them do it for you. Be SAFE!
Later,
John A.

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Tom43

03-30-2007 04:24:22




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to earl zingraf, 03-29-2007 20:36:03  
Even though there has developed a cult like following for 9N and 8N tractors they are mere toys when compared to the M for plowing and disking. The little Fords don't even compare to the H much less he M.



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Allan In NE

03-30-2007 02:35:48




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to earl zingraf, 03-29-2007 20:36:03  
Earl,

Keep your M for clearing your drive; it's already paid for.

Stay off that dam with a tractor!

Run a wire around it and find yourself an old $100 shetland pony that is headed for the killers. He'll keep that dam trimed down for you.

Allan



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Tom in TN

03-29-2007 23:50:14




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to earl zingraf, 03-29-2007 20:36:03  
Earl,

I had a Super M when I farmed a small farm (120 acres) in Minnesota. I now have a Ford 2000 on a small farm (150 acres) in Tennessee. The Super M was vastly superior to the Ford for row-crop farming (plowing, disking, planting, etc.). However, my Tennessee farm is very hilly and there is no way I'd try to mow the hills with the Super M. The Ford 2000 has a much lower center of gravity and is much more stable than the tall Farmall.

Good luck,

Tom in TN

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old

03-29-2007 21:19:07




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to earl zingraf, 03-29-2007 20:36:03  
Both are good tractors but both can and will roll over if used on a hill the wrong way. On either one the only safe way to do any thing on a hill is up or down but never along the hill. Look in stuck and troubled theres a picture I posted of what can and will happen if a ford 8N/9N is used wrong



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georgeky

03-29-2007 21:16:16




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to earl zingraf, 03-29-2007 20:36:03  
The M will mow anything the ford will with a lot more power. Scoot the wheels out wide and go. There is no comparison between the two the M wins hands down every time. The ford will get by on less gas.



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JNP

03-29-2007 20:56:18




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to earl zingraf, 03-29-2007 20:36:03  
The Ford will be a lot more stable and less likely to roll than the M on uneven ground.



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Roy Suomi

03-29-2007 20:54:42




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to earl zingraf, 03-29-2007 20:36:03  
The Ford will certainly have a lower center of gravity than the " Binder "..I would adjust the wheels all the way out to spread the stance for hillside mowing..As far as plowing and discing , unless it's a fresh engine , you might be a little disappointed with the 9N..My 2 cents worth...I'm sure some die-hard Ford people will dispute my opinion but, from personel experience this is my thoughts on this subject..

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Wisconsin Cowman

03-29-2007 20:48:36




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to earl zingraf, 03-29-2007 20:36:03  
The M is some much better. It would be nice to have the Ford for smaller jobs like mowing.



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dds-inc

03-29-2007 20:42:37




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to earl zingraf, 03-29-2007 20:36:03  
if you only have an acre, all you should ever need is the ford. the M just can't get used to being on such a small place.



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steveormary

03-29-2007 21:00:39




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 Re: M vs Ford 9N in reply to dds-inc, 03-29-2007 20:42:37  
Well,I dont know. It would be nice to have them both. A plow or disk would probaly work better on the 9N because of the draft control system on the Ford.Also,the Ford with lower center of gravity and wide front end would be more stable on slopes.

steveormary



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