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OT Well Casing??????

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SJ

03-27-2007 17:35:24




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I have an underground pressure tank and in casing pressure switch for my barn well.The water shelf is so high I cant put the pressure switch deep enough in to the casing to keep it from freezing.This probably wont be a problem again till next winter,but I just wanted some ideas on keeping the casing warm enough to prevent this next winter.Build a tiny shed around?Insulate it with a light bulb inside?Maybey heat tape?Btw that underground pressure tank is shot already,only 1 1/2 yrs old.Bladder went on it.Its still under warranty but still have too install another one.Just thouhgt Id post that in case anyone was wondering about these type of systems.I dont reccomend them been nothin but trouble.
Thanks Stan

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rrlund

03-28-2007 07:52:09




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 Re: OT Well Casing?????? in reply to SJ, 03-27-2007 17:35:24  
Are you talking about a well with a submersable pump and a burry system? (burried bladder tank) We have that system and the pressure switch sits right on top of the well,right out in the yard here in lovely sunny,warm all the time Michigan. (joke of course) I just changed the switch the other day as a matter of fact,but it has a system on it where it uses antifreeze in the line from where the sensor goes in to the casing below ground up to where the pressure switch mounts on the well head.Talk to a well man about it.

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T_Bone

03-28-2007 07:38:25




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 Re: OT Well Casing?????? in reply to SJ, 03-27-2007 17:35:24  
Hi Stan,

Bladder tank water systems are very reliable "if" there installed correctly. There not made to go through heat/freeze cycles tho and that"s where your having your biggest problems.

I would build a above ground 4ftsq building and super insulate that. There"s nothing wrong with 12" walls or 18" walls for that matter then use a 100w blub on a thermostat set at 40șon 45șoff. It all depends on how well you stop the thermal heat transfer in the walls and ceiling on how much external heat will be required for your area. You may not need any external heat.

You can also use dirt, dirt/cement, paper, in the walls for insulation or build the walls out of ram earth, dirt/cement, cement/sand, to keep costs down. Both methods will last well over 30yrs if done correctly.

Empty bladder tanks need to be set at 2psi below pump kick on pressure to last a long time. Anything higher will suck the bladder out of the tank on each pump cycle thus rubbing a hole in the bladder causing it to fail.

T_Bone

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midlam

03-28-2007 03:22:25




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 Re: OT Well Casing?????? in reply to SJ, 03-27-2007 17:35:24  
cut a hole in an old freezer,put some foam insulation around casing and set the freezer on it. Use a 100watt 130 volt household bulb in a refector socket to keep from freezing.I think they have a life of over 2 years if left on. If you run the light though a Thero-cube it will last for years.
The thermo-cube will turn the light on when needed. A heat bulb has a short life. They last for an average of 22 days if left on.

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Armand Tatro

03-27-2007 18:57:37




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 Re: OT Well Casing?????? in reply to SJ, 03-27-2007 17:35:24  
Clint has a good idea. Any time you bury something like that it seems to fail more often and at the most inconvent times. Armand P. S. I used to have a backhoe service.



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Clint Youse MO

03-27-2007 18:02:34




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 Re: OT Well Casing?????? in reply to SJ, 03-27-2007 17:35:24  
Build a shed around it and go to town and buy a $11 radiant heater and put in it I have a pump house that is pretty airish and the little heater keeps it around 65 degrees it works great and you could be able to put the pressure tank and switch in hte shed

Clint



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Bus Driver

03-28-2007 04:44:56




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 Re: OT Well Casing?????? in reply to Clint Youse MO, 03-27-2007 18:02:34  
Keeping the temperature at 33 degrees is sufficient. I use two 100 watt lamps in series on 120 volts. They do not give off bright light but do give off heat and the 60 volts on each lamp makes them last for many years.



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