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Walt7777777

03-05-2007 04:21:43




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I am replacing the oil pump and want to replace the bearings while I have it apart, I have over 4,000 hours on it. I took one of the mains and on piston rod end bearings out to look at them to see what shape they were in and noticed that they were .010. Does this mean that the crank has been turned at some point or do they come new like this?

Any help/advise appreciated.

Thanks,

Walt




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Allan In NE

03-05-2007 06:21:11




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 Re: IH1466 in reply to Walt7777777, 03-05-2007 04:21:43  
Mornin' Walt,

Yeah, sounds like it has been turned once.

Have you decided yet where you're going to get your engine kit?

Allan



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Walt7777777

03-05-2007 06:49:44




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 Re: IH1466 in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2007 06:21:11  
Think I should get the entire kit or just what it needs? Not sure where to get the kit, do you have any recommendations?

Thanks,

Walt



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Allan In NE

03-05-2007 07:31:40




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 Re: IH1466 in reply to Walt7777777, 03-05-2007 06:49:44  
Mornin' Walt,

If it is getting anti-freeze into the oil, I really think your tractor is in need of some major, major work.

I'm not set up to do heavy stuff here nor do I have the time, so when they get to that point, I send 'em to town to the Red Shop and let the big boys handle it. So, can't really recommend where you can find the kits.

My 966 had the same malady as your 1466 has now and I told the shop to do it all since they had to split the tractor anyway. By the time the dust settled, seems to me it ran in somewhere between $4K and $6K for the engine, clutch and that new PTO input gear/seal.

Just not a fun time. :>(

Allan

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Walt7777777

03-05-2007 10:10:43




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 Re: IH1466 in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2007 07:31:40  
Thanks for the picture, not sure I want to spend that kind of money yet. I bought the tractor with 4000 hours or so on it and I think it has already been rebuilt with the .010 bearings in it. I guess I will have to remove the head to get to the sleeve seals, so will take a good look at it then. I can do the bearings from below.

Thanks again.

Walt7



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Owen Aaland

03-05-2007 19:43:03




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 Re: IH1466 in reply to Walt7777777, 03-05-2007 10:10:43  
To keep costs down you may be able to get by without a sleeve and piston kit.

If you push the sleeves and pistons out as an assembly with out removing the pistions from the sleeves you can get by without replacing the piston rings. Make sure none of the sleeves are scored before deciding to go this route.

Once the sleeve assemblies are out, remove the o-ring seals and carefully inspect the o-ring grooves for any signs of pitting. The top groove must not have any defects since this is the o-ring that does the sealing. You will notice that the top groove is not as deep as the other two. The lower o-rings support the sleeve in the block while the top one is compressed against the taper in the block. Inspect the thrust side of the sleeve for cavitation damage. Slight pitting is acceptable. Severe pitting may result in hole going completely through the sleeve. When that happens you are almost alway going to have a scored piston. O-ring leakage can also cause piston skirt scoring as the skirt will pick up the drops of antifreeze and pull it up into the sleeve.

You also need to inspect the sealing area of the block. Cavitation occurs not only on the sleeves but can also damage the block. Any damage here will require either replacing the block or resleeving the lower sealing area. A repair sleeve is available to repair this area.

Cavitation is the worst on the thrust side of the sleeve. When reassembling the sleeve/piston assemblies back into the block it is recomended to rotate the sleeve 90 degrees. This also means the thrust of the piston will now be on an area that has less wear. The rings will turn with the sleeve so that they will still be wear matched to the sleeve.

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Walt7777777

03-06-2007 05:05:23




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 Re: IH1466 in reply to Owen Aaland, 03-05-2007 19:43:03  
Thanks for the information, I will take off the head to see where it is and decide from there.

Information most appreciated!

Regards,

Walt



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