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135 Fan

03-03-2007 21:02:49

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I just bought some new tire chains because I have lots and lots of snow up here. At least 2 feet deep to try to clear. I bought some Duo-grip (H pattern) chains made especially for Ag tires and after looking in the archives on here got them mounted reasonably quick. About an hour for the first one and half an hour for the second one. Anyway I have found that the snow still wins the battle. I had to use a Cat track loader because of ice underneath. The tractor works good to clean up after but the Cat is slow. One of the chains is staying on top of the lugs pretty good but the other one has got hooked on the tire lugs and a bunch of the cross chains are down in the lugs. This has caused the chain to go tighter. I was getting unstuck and spun the tires which I think caused the lugs to grab the chain. Maybe I just happened to put the chain on where this would happen? Should I loosen the chain and turn it slightly on the tire so it has a better chance of staying on top? Both chains were tightened on the same links. I put a couple of rubber straps on the chains just for good measure and barely stretched them. Maybe I should take them off? Has anyone else had this problem? The chain still grabs but mostly on the links of the H and not on the cross chains because they are inside the tire lugs. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Dave

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Nebraska Cowman

03-04-2007 11:36:22

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Re: Tire chains question in reply to 135 Fan, 03-03-2007 21:02:49

is that 135 like in 135 massey Ferguson? if it you have too much horsepower for the diameter of the tires. Spinning is something you are going to have to control. Trhottle back a little. Once your tires break loose from the ground you have lost traction. Spinning like crazy on ice or snow don't gain you nothing. In fact it is worse than nothing. If you don't believe me try stopping on an icy hill. With the power disengaged you can hold the tractor with the brakes. But spin the wheels and you will start down hill.

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135 Fan

03-04-2007 14:54:18

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Re: Tire chains question in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 03-04-2007 11:36:22

Yes, it's a 135 MF. It has a steel cab from an industrial MF 20 on it and a loader with filled tires and a rear blade. I never had chains on it before and was seeing how much snow I could work in and was getting stuck. That's when the tires spun. The snow was about as deep as the front axle with some ice underneath it. I need to use the Cat for the initial clearing. When the snow was more managable the chains helped a lot. Dave

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Hugh MacKay

03-04-2007 02:45:35

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Re: Tire chains question in reply to 135 Fan, 03-03-2007 21:02:49

Dave: Everyone has an opinion on chains, yet most of us try and work with what we have. I'd get rid of those rubber straps and loosen the side chains one link.

I've run just about every imaginable configuration of wheel chain going. Over the years I only found one benefit in having chains tight, that being for operating at higher speeds. If your chains are loose enough so the center of cross chain picks off the ground about 4 to 6 inches behind tire when travelling, then every rotation each cross chain will come out of treads. Your never going to completely eliminate chain getting in treads, just give it a chance to come out.

Having said this, the old 45 degree tire tread work much better on chains also, chains don't get in treads near as much.

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Allan In NE

03-04-2007 01:28:45

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Re: Tire chains question in reply to 135 Fan, 03-03-2007 21:02:49

Dave,

Here's the rest of the story. Ya bought the wrong chains.

Need the ones with the dual cross links.

Allan

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135 Fan

03-04-2007 08:59:18

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Re: Tire chains question in reply to Allan In NE, 03-04-2007 01:28:45

No I didn't. I bought the Duo's because they are recommended for ag tires. Very similar to yours. They have dual cross chains with a couple larger links connecting the 2 cross chains together. They were a little loose at first but I think when I spun in deep snow the lugs on the tire pulled the chain into them. Maybe on larger tires with longer lugs it's not a problem. I can hear the the chain on the other side flop when I drive. Both were tightened the same amount. I think I'll loosen the one chain so I can get it sitting back on top. Thanks for the fast responses. Dave

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