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ot biodiesel in home heating

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chris sweetland

03-02-2007 19:13:16




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ok this is my first year in the house where i gotta use oil heat only because the insurance company said the wood stove and furnace could not go on the same flue how do i knock the price down i have heard of guys putting cooking oil in what would be a good mix if i were to do that also is there anything i would have to do to the cooking oil besides filtering it? also could i use a bio diesel in it or would that have to be a mix too? putting 150 gallons in every three weeks is getting old quick. thanks for any help

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buickanddeere

03-03-2007 18:08:00




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 Re: ot biodiesel in home heating in reply to chris sweetland, 03-02-2007 19:13:16  
Biodiesel is best used in moving machinery. A fixed location costs are lower using solid fuel. A free standing direct vented stoker stove built to burn grain, wood pellets and coal is a winner if firewood isn't practical.



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paul

03-03-2007 08:18:54




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 Re: ot biodiesel in home heating in reply to chris sweetland, 03-02-2007 19:13:16  
Typically the bio needs to have the glyserins (fatty bits) removed from it or it tends to gell things up. Some folks work out ways around this, others just do the chemical process to settle the glyserins out. Either way is a bit of a fuss but doable.

How cold is your fuel oil storage tank? Mine is in a basement room, but that unused, unheated room gets so cold in the 20 below cold snaps I still have problems with #2 fuel gelling a bit. Bio is slightly more sensitive to cold. So if your tank is outside or otherwise cold, you will need to pay attention to gelling, and esp if you are trying to get by without doing the seperation.

--->Paul

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JMS/MN

03-03-2007 09:24:15




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 Re: ot biodiesel in home heating in reply to paul, 03-03-2007 08:18:54  
My shop furnace is fed by an outside tank- replaced the small copper line with half-inch hydraulic hose, and there is less of a problem with gelling.



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paul

03-03-2007 13:21:37




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 Re: ot biodiesel in home heating in reply to JMS/MN, 03-03-2007 09:24:15  
Is the filter placed inside with an outdoor tank?

Hose sounds like a good idea for that.

--->Paul



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Larry from Mich.

03-03-2007 06:00:22




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 Re: ot biodiesel in home heating in reply to chris sweetland, 03-02-2007 19:13:16  
If you live in Michigan, Look closely at the bottom of your bill. There is a 4% heating tax that you have to add to you price per gallon. They want all of our money.



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dan hill

03-03-2007 02:50:52




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 Re: ot biodiesel in home heating in reply to chris sweetland, 03-02-2007 19:13:16  
Soot and creosote from the wood stove can plug the flue up tight.The oil burner ex haust is under pressure and can force smoke back into the house.The oilburner can affect the draft when idle.If you are going to burn wood put in another chimney.Do not run a chimney on the outside of the building or cover up the chimney to make it look nice.A cold chimney makes a lot of creosote and will drive you nuts trying to keep it clean.Building a masonary chimney is hard work,it will cost you to have it done.Just spent 300.00 for material to build a 16 foot chimney to replace an old one in my kitchen.With oil prices going up you should be set up to burn wood.I paid 87 cents per gallon 10 years ago, last oil I bought was 2.28 per gallon.If oil goes to 3.00 it will take ALL of my ss check in jan feb.It has been 2.75 at times here.I cut my own wood.Its hard dangerous work But beats freezing to death.There is a severe propane shortage in Maine now.The honeymoon is over, no more 15 cent oil or 25 cent gas....Biodiesel is still too expensive to use for home heating.

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jdshl

03-02-2007 19:39:46




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 Re: ot biodiesel in home heating in reply to chris sweetland, 03-02-2007 19:13:16  
just go ahead and put the stove in up the same flue. How's anyone going to know?



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Sid

03-02-2007 20:32:54




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 Re: ot biodiesel in home heating in reply to jdshl, 03-02-2007 19:39:46  
If the two were put into the same flue and say the flue became restricted due to soot build up. Then say the wood stove was being used you would have a good chance that flue gasses would come back into the house through the furnace or vice versa.



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Sid

03-02-2007 20:33:03




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 Re: ot biodiesel in home heating in reply to jdshl, 03-02-2007 19:39:46  
If the two were put into the same flue and say the flue became restricted due to soot build up. Then say the wood stove was being used you would have a good chance that flue gasses would come back into the house through the furnace or vice versa.



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no deeres here

03-02-2007 19:56:13




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 Re: ot biodiesel in home heating in reply to jdshl, 03-02-2007 19:39:46  
The one who will know will be the insurance company. Most likely they will want it inspected by the appropriate people ( in Ontario they are known as WETT) before the stove will be added to the policy. If he ever has a fire and he doesn't have the proper inspections to conform to the insurance company's requirements That would end up being a 6 digit mistake. ie it would void the insurance



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lsdgg

03-02-2007 20:18:59




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 Re: ot biodiesel in home heating in reply to no deeres here, 03-02-2007 19:56:13  
ahh...good point



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