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OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook?

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jmixigo

02-21-2007 17:49:37




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My buddy Tim called while ago an asked me for some advice. His two car trailer was stolen today. His first call went to the cops. A county deputy responded and took a report. When the deputy opined, "I don't think you'll ever see it again." Tim told him that the trailer had a GPS tracker on it, and if the theif hooked up and activated the trailer lights the company that sold him the tracker would, for a fee, trace the trailer's movements and supply an address on where it was. The tracker had been installed as a monitoring devise and never got removed.

The deputy told him that if he had the devise activated and used it to track down the theif then A: any evidence obtained in this manner would not be admissable in court and would in fact insure that this thug got off scott free; and B: Tim would be in violation of Alabama's "Anti-stalking Law" and subject to penalties greater than those for stealing the trailer.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?

I told him if he wants the trailer back to turn on the tracker, and give me a call. Then if any problems arise from my solution to deney all knowledge, and claim that the trailer was back because some body must have borrowed it and failed to mention it.

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BLW

02-24-2007 08:56:49




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to jmixigo, 02-21-2007 17:49:37  
having worked on the sheriff's patrol for many years- I thought our job was to solve the "crime" and let the DA try the case--after all if the co that sold the divice tracked the trailer- they would be the ones stalking not you== and I don't think this would hold up in court anyway-- most of the judges have a little common sense left



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David Snipes

02-22-2007 10:37:40




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to jmixigo, 02-21-2007 17:49:37  
I am not familiar with Alabama's anti-stalking laws, but I would think that intent would be part of the law. In other words, what is the intent of the behavior. Is it to harass an individual unlawfuly or is it to recover your stolen property? Most anti-stalking laws are to cover harassing behavior in divorce cases and the like. I would definatley talk to the Deputy's supervisor and the Prosecuting Attorney. If you recovered your trailer and they were stupid enough to charge you, I would suspect that a jury of your peers would see the light.

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Hal/WA

02-22-2007 16:20:11




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to David Snipes, 02-22-2007 10:37:40  
Hey Dave, do you live near Spokane? I used to know a guy with your same name, but have lost track of him.

I agree with your analysis, but who knows how the law might read in Alabama? I would suggest that the trailer owner talk to the prosecuting attorney, or an attorney that specializes in criminal law. That officer's advice sounds screwy to me!



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David Snipes

02-23-2007 07:40:33




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to Hal/WA, 02-22-2007 16:20:11  
I live in Spokane on the farm I was raised on near the Spokane Airport. Do we know each other?



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Hal/WA

02-23-2007 18:44:31




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to David Snipes, 02-23-2007 07:40:33  
We sure do! How did things come out with your retirement from POCSO? We did some running around together a long time ago. Remember Kathy and KC? And our "acquaintance" Dashiell?

I read the tractor boards fairly often and sometimes respond if I think I have something to contribute. I haven't seen your name before on the boards, but figured it might be you. Snipes is not that common of a name. Most of us use handles on the boards, rather than our actual names. Since lots of people call me Hal, that was what I decided to use, but you know me as Neil.

I will stop by one of these days and we can talk about old times again. I didn't know you were interested in old tractors. Have a good one!

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steve from mo - dangit!

02-22-2007 08:48:02




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 Just a doggone minute here! in reply to jmixigo, 02-21-2007 17:49:37  
I think your situation got a lot simpler. I'd suggest having someone discretely follow that deputy home, and watch him trying to find that GPS device. For goodness sake!



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ken in texas

02-22-2007 08:13:59




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to jmixigo, 02-21-2007 17:49:37  
To prevent trailor theft a local shop will cut off the ball hitch and build a sort of tubing with holes drilled to match holes in tubing on trailer and pull off hitch when parked and store in pickup. Not much chance a thief would take the time to try to rig up some thing to hitch to.What do you think,is this a good idea.or too much trouble??



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Lou

02-22-2007 08:11:09




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to jmixigo, 02-21-2007 17:49:37  
I always make sure I call the state police, Sheriffs depts have let me down.



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jubilee johnny

02-22-2007 05:04:48




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to jmixigo, 02-21-2007 17:49:37  
just spend 5 minutes watching the Anna Nicole Smith circus/fiasco/trial and you see more of the "justice" system....



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Nolan

02-22-2007 03:28:27




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to jmixigo, 02-21-2007 17:49:37  
"WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?"

The cop. As usual. Grossly incompetent in his law knowledge and resisting doing his job.



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Kevin Bismark

02-22-2007 14:44:07




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to Nolan, 02-22-2007 03:28:27  
Right on the money there, sometimes I wonder how they manage to get in the right squad car after a stop at the doughnuts stand, the declining intelligence is the main reasons I changed professions, very few with common sense anymore, here the analog radio system they had was "too hard" for them to figure out how to use, couldn't figure out what chanel was for what, so they are spending millions of dollars now on a new digital system that has been online for a year and still doesn't work, sounds like it has the bug the bugs that Michigan was trying to get out of the system 3 years ago, but after all the budgets are all unliminted..

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mike a. tenn.

02-22-2007 04:55:32




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to Nolan, 02-22-2007 03:28:27  
hey all...let's remember that like in any other line of work, there are good workers and bad workers. many of our law officers are very intellegent, and dedicated people that often put their lives on the line for us. don't let this one very lazy, stupid, individual ruin the reputations of the "good guys" for you.

just my two cents worth.
-mike
ps...no, i'm not a cop nor do i have any officers in my family.

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TomTX

02-21-2007 20:37:20




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to jmixigo, 02-21-2007 17:49:37  
There is a two step solution:
1.turn on tracker
2. go get trailer



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NE IA Dave

02-21-2007 20:06:17




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 HEY HEY NOW NOW GUYS! in reply to jmixigo, 02-21-2007 17:49:37  
Stop complaining about my government! -- ok --It is indeed the best form of government money can buy! Just heard that there are 30,000 lobiests in Washington. If you think money can not buy happiness, you must not know a politician.

In all reality I used to be very tough on crime, untill I got involved in our court system (not in a negative way). It is run as stupid as posible. Now with capital punishment I realy do have to ask--- did the person get a fair trial? Although this information is second hand and only one side of the story mentioned to me. A guy took a leak behind a tree near a tavern, got caught for indecent exposure. Is now on the National $ex offender list. The story was pretty convincing of being the truth.

Perhaps I must also explain-- In a divorce court the question was asked---Have you stoped beating your wife? yes or no? I explained I could not answer the question yes or no. I refused to answer in that format--the judge said I must answer the attorney. ---Is this for real--- I'm thinking--when in stupid town act like stupid town--So I had him repeat the question. Have you stopped beating your wife yes or no? I said Your honor with all do respect--I never had a wife named yeserno. The judge did smile but shook his finger at me and reminded me that a contempt order could be implied. No guys this is no bull. Yet this judge is determining where my child will reside, child support, financial matters, visitation--and no there is NEVER NEVER a jury in a divorce court in the state of Iowa. Now let me say that on cross examination my ex-wife did admit I had never so much as toutched her, and yes I was awarded custody of a two year old.

I will state that I will pay for your tracking fee if the trailer is in NE IA, and I'm resonably sure you will get it back. Red necks like fair hangings.

Also are these devises affordable, and where do you get them? Sorry for the dumb question, but heck I just heard the other day about something called indoor plumbing and something called toilet paper.

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P N Woods

02-21-2007 20:24:19




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 Re: HEY HEY NOW NOW GUYS! in reply to NE IA Dave, 02-21-2007 20:06:17  
Similar thing happened to a guy I know.. He was on a country road, stopped, walked back in the woods, came back to his truck, a Deputy was pulled over, asked what was going on.. He told Deputy he walked into the woods to answer nature. He got a ticket for indecent exposure, although he was way off in the woods. Ticket was only 50 or so dollars, and he was just going to pay it, until a lawyer told him it would put him on the S3xual Offender list.. He fought it and was found not guilty, so he stayed off the list..

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Leland

02-21-2007 19:51:36




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to jmixigo, 02-21-2007 17:49:37  
cop is full of crap then according to him onstar would be illegal as well if they responded to a distress call using it as well



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806man

02-21-2007 18:47:05




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to jmixigo, 02-21-2007 17:49:37  
Speaking as one of the few "not on the take" I have investigated cases of semi tractor trailers being stolen and then we have found them with the gps tracking systems. I think that if you have the serial number of the trailer make sure that the police officer enters it in NCIC as a stolen item. You can use the tracking system to locate it, then the local officials in the jurisdiction the trailer is in can recover it. Maybe you might need to contact his supervisor and ask a few questions. Some officers do not have enough drive to fully investigate the offense. I can assure you that if you tell me it is in my county I will go get it and use your gps tracking information as evidence to prosecute the person responsible. Just my 2 cents worth.

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Davis In SC

02-21-2007 18:41:15




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to jmixigo, 02-21-2007 17:49:37  
I agree with the post below.. The State Police or Highway Patrol are probably better trained in matters such as this. We have had 3 trailers stolen from our business, none were ever recovered. I do get a letter from the Sheriff's Dept, concerning the last one stolen, once a year, wanting to know if we have found it..



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Island A

02-21-2007 18:18:06




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to jmixigo, 02-21-2007 17:49:37  
If that were true then Lojack would be out of business.

Dave



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IH2444

02-21-2007 18:09:01




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to jmixigo, 02-21-2007 17:49:37  
The cop did not know what he was talking about, happens all the time. Call the state police.

Does the cell phone companies sell the track your teen service or some other service in GA ?

While I lived in Tampa,FL ahinese Restaurant owner called the cops to get a blind mans guide dog thrown out , and the stupid cop did it.
Of course the blind man can now afford a gold collar for the guide dog :)

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Dave from MN

02-21-2007 18:06:50




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to jmixigo, 02-21-2007 17:49:37  
Ya know, in some ways I really wish the US would be alot less politically correct. Its getting sickening. I really wonder what all the states and fed covernment spends in a decade to house rapist, pedophiles, murderers, theives and the like. I do feel a box of 50 .22 long rifles costs about $2.00. That would take care of 50 of the 1st 3 offenses I stated. I try to live right, but one thing I am hard on is crimes of that type. Bring out back, let the Lord decide their afterlife. Theives, well once caught they should have it tattood to their forehead. Sorry so blunt, but I have had freinds murdered, raped, and molested. It seems the biggest mistake you can make when taking the law into your own hands is, telling some one.

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Pete in MD

02-21-2007 19:00:54




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to Dave from MN, 02-21-2007 18:06:50  
The last sentence in your post reminds me of the old adage--Shoot, Shovel, and Shut Up.



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old

02-21-2007 17:55:09




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 Re: OT He stole my trailer, an I'm the crook? in reply to jmixigo, 02-21-2007 17:49:37  
Isn't funny how laws now days protect the crook not the person that has been wronged. But it had to happen since most elected people are crooks in the first place. Shoot now days its odd to find a cop or P.A. that isn't on the take which again means the crook has help getting away with doing a crime



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