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Brad Wright of

02-14-2007 11:07:46

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I read in an earlier post that i think it was ia gary that started farmin in his junior year of high school. I realize things were different then and it was prolly easier to start farming then. (no offense or anything) But that got me to thinkin i've always wanted to farm so why cant i start in high school to. By the way im freshman now. My grandpa would prolly be glad to help me. He has some equipment but not a lot cause now my uncle does all the farming. His equipment is way to big for me to use for just startin out anyway. Im not talkin nothing to big just maby 20 acres or so untill i get the hang of it. I've helped farm with my uncle for years i just have never really done it by myself completely like a whole season. What do you think is the best way to start up and do you think this is even a good idea?

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Clint Youse MO

02-14-2007 19:40:11

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to Brad Wright of MO, 02-14-2007 11:07:46

Brad I am 25 been helping dad since i was old enough to walk he had about 80 sows and we sold feeder pigs when I was about 8 or so I started buying gilts and he would let me run my sows with his for 2 pigs out of each litter and all my labor to him was for the roof over my head and the feed bill helped me make money yet still learn the risk somewhat. We got out of hogs in 1996 when the feeder pig market fell out I went to work for a large hog farmer after school and in the summer. Plowed all dads old hog lots under sowed them in grass and bought a few cows with my money from selling out on the hogs. Graduated highschool went to University of Missouri got a degree then went to work in an implement dealer for a year or so thought it was what i wanted but missed my cows and farming so i talked it over with my family and girlfriend and went back to work for the guy I had worked for in high school that wa 2 years ago. Last April I bought a satelite facilty to the main hog farm where I farrow sows on a contract for the guy, still building my cow herd but this is now my only income. I say if your uncle and grandpa are willing to help you out that is a good place to start trade labor for equipment usage and so on. it is hard to get started these days with out some support. I don't ever regret going back to the farm and i hear all kinds of things up town about how dumb it was to go to college and then come back and farm but I would not trade either The guys that talk about farming being tough are right especially in time like the last month with livestock, frozen waters, feeding hay, just getting around on the farm. But I sat down and figured my balance sheet for the banker tonight I was surprised at how much my net worth had went up. It is always a risk. To me it is well worth and if young people don't come back and farm we will be importing food just like oil.

I was also wondering what part of MO you are from I live IN the NE part

CLINT

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D17 man

02-14-2007 17:00:36

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to Brad Wright of MO, 02-14-2007 11:07:46

im a sophmore in high school. last year i bought my first tractor and me and my brother farm about 5 acres out of the 20. we keep expanding every year. all the farmers in my area are gettin old and none of their kids have any interest. by the time im 30 i'll probably be the only farm around my area

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Dave from MN

02-14-2007 14:46:04

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to Brad Wright of MO, 02-14-2007 11:07:46

I think that more people your age need to have the desire to farm. I am a poultry grower currently and will be expanding into crop farming and a few beef cows this spring. I am really hoping and planning to be at 200+ acres by the spring of '09, with the added goal, of farming my mom's side family farm, currently rented out to some one else. We'll see how it goes, hard to compete with the big guys that tell ya "there is no money in farming, let me run your ground". I hope the trend of fewer and bigger farms reverses, but I doubt it will, but its in my blood, and when I resigned from a great paying and great benifits job, my mind said "if I dont try I'll always wonder if I could of", this way I will know, so far so good. BUT.... you HAVE to have an education or trade skill, so as you educate yourself in farming, also educate yourself for a career besides farming. Good luck. Accomplish your goals with well thought out plans for long term as well.

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Youngfarmhand

02-14-2007 14:05:45

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to Brad Wright of MO, 02-14-2007 11:07:46

That's what I did just did 10 acres in high school. I 'm still a hired hand for the guy that let me farm the 10. Right now I go to school to be a teacher so I have insurance and benefits as well as those summers off to get my own farm going. I say go ahead start with the 20 and go from their.

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mike a. tenn.

02-14-2007 14:47:11

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to Youngfarmhand, 02-14-2007 14:05:45

hey future teacher...."and go from THERE" NOT their. oh sorry...that's just the father in me correcting your grammer. 80)

-mike

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Tom in TN

02-14-2007 16:35:12

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to mike a. tenn., 02-14-2007 14:47:11

Hey Mike,

It's grammar not grammer. Grin!

Tom in TN

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mike a. tenn.

02-14-2007 17:07:29

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to Tom in TN, 02-14-2007 16:35:12

tom...you're right! and the bad part about it is, there was just a post with the same error on it a week or so ago...shows you how thick headed "I" am huh? but the other thing is...i warn't never no skool teecher neether! just a dumb lineman. by the way...which part of tenn. are you in?

-mike

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FreeRanger

02-14-2007 13:01:50

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to Brad Wright of MO, 02-14-2007 11:07:46

I am with Howard. Not to be mean or anything but....

Don't be a fool! Stay in school.

Farming is a lifestyle, a stressful and dangerous one at that. Like professional sports, few are highly successful. Most people end up paying to play locally.

I fix computers so I can afford to farm. The future is in computers; networking and security. With today's technology you can live on an active farm and still support computers half way across the state (or world). Pays really well and you aren't forced to go out in bad weather. It make "doing chores" in a snow storm so much more enjoyable knowing I don't have to. It's a choice. I have sheep and poultry. Wife is pushing for pigs this year. We don't make alot of money farming but that is only one of the goals (not the primary). I raise "rare" breeds by choice.

If you really have the bug to farm, then I suggest picking a niche market. It's risky compared to corn/bean row crops or feedlots but hey you will have a hard time competing with them. At least with a unique product you have a chance of starting small and growing big as your experience and means allow.

May I suggest grass-fed Large Black pigs?
Or grow native grasses and wildflowers for seed? Sooner or later people are going to figure out it is STUPID to mow that five acre deed restricted country lot. What a waste of time and money, not to mention the loss of wildlife habitat.

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Brad Wright of MO

02-14-2007 14:45:39

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to FreeRanger, 02-14-2007 13:01:50

Oh dont worry i would stay in school still i just wanted to start farming and could take care of it on weekends and afterschool

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IaGary

02-14-2007 12:55:26

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to Brad Wright of MO, 02-14-2007 11:07:46

Thats how I started, on borrowed equipment.

Used dads equipment until 78 and bought my first tractor.

Then every year I would buy a piece of dads equipment when I had the money.Did not borrow money for machinery and land both.

You need to pay cash for machinery if your gonna stay ahead of the game.

By the time Dad died a sudden death in 99 I owned every thing I needed to farm.

We sold 7 tractors at dads sale that I did not need.I had 3 1086s and a MTA and have added from there.

There was a couple of dads I wanted to have but did not have the cash so I did not buy.

Gary

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RustyFarmall

02-14-2007 12:48:30

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to Brad Wright of MO, 02-14-2007 11:07:46

Have a visit with your grandpa. You'll never know until you ask. Having your own operation will be a tough row to hoe, and you may never get rich, but no one ever got rich by working for someone else either.

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Howard H.

02-14-2007 12:24:16

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to Brad Wright of MO, 02-14-2007 11:07:46

Not to discourage you from developing your own operation, but another good way of getting your feet wet with less risk would be to pick out some sharp, progressive, ambitious farm outfit that is already established and hire on with them for a while.

It would let you learn state of the art farming techniques while guaranteeing you an income for a while.

In this area of the country one hail storm can wipe out a couple year's worth of income.

I got into farming bigtime in my 20's (1980's) and got out in my late 30's... Don't regret the fun working with my Dad or being my own boss or the experience gained, but compared to my career in the computer field, I can't say it was all that great a career choice...

Howard

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dhermesc

02-14-2007 15:00:18

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to Howard H., 02-14-2007 12:24:16

I agree.

Back in the 70s my uncle sent off two of his sons to learn how the big boys did it in Iowa. About ten years later they came back and formed a partnership and started out in 1981 with about $10,000 in cash between them. Their dad was dead so everything they made was their own, nothing inherited or passed on.

Twenty six years later they own a couple thousand acres, a couple of the local elevators, a feed mill and an over 2000 sow farrowing farm.

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Rick Kr

02-14-2007 12:22:07

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to Brad Wright of MO, 02-14-2007 11:07:46

I started at 36, mine right now is a hobby but who knows about the future.

If you arent afraid of hard work, you will be successful, just keep your goals realistic.

Rick

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al bane

02-14-2007 12:10:36

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to Brad Wright of MO, 02-14-2007 11:07:46

I was born and raised on a 400 acre farm where we had a dairy herd, beef cattle and tobacco. As we were growing up we worked from daylight to dark. Dad always wanted to put in 10,000 to 15,000 square bales of hay a year and my brother , a friend and myself put the hay in while dad baled. We milked every morning before school and every evening after ball practice. My brother and I were both fairly talented in basketball and we were both offered college scholarships. I took mine and he decided to stay on the farm and get married and work. I taught school for 30 years and he is still farming and working his butt off just to stay on top. Early decisions are very inportant. Farming wasn't for me and he see's his mistake.

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nickg

02-14-2007 11:53:20

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to Brad Wright of MO, 02-14-2007 11:07:46

you are on the wright track. Start out small. Don't set unrealistic goals and don't try to get to big to quick. I have seen a lot of farmers go belly up because the tried to play with the big farmers. I think it's a good idea if this is something you really want to do. Dont be affraid to ask friends and family for help and support. There has been alot of time my friends and family helped me.I got my start on 30 acres with a 4020 and 6 row planter. I had a farmer friend custom combine for me. I helped a farmer all through high school and he helped me a great deal.Now we are partners.

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IRONSALES

02-14-2007 11:35:05

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Re: Startin Farmin Young in reply to Brad Wright of MO, 02-14-2007 11:07:46

MY MOM AND STEPDAD GOT MARRIED WHEN I WAS IN 2ND GRADE, HE ALWAYS TOOK ME TO THE FEILD WITH HIM, WHEN I GOT OLD ENOUGH TO HELP HE WOULD TAKE ME TO PLOW AND CHECK ON ME AND FINALLY MY SOPHMORE YEAR, HE AND I HAD HAD ENOUGH OF EACH OTHER, WITH HELP FROM MOM'S DAD, I LEASED HIS BROTHERS 300 ACRE, TRACTOR, AND EQUIPMENT. BY MY SENIOR YEAR I HAD A LITTLE OVER 800 ACRES, WAS WORKING TILL MIDNIGHT, HAD 2 MORE TRACTORS, AND HAD 2 GUYS THAT WORKED FOR ME. AFTER 2 MORE YEARS I FINALLY CALLED IT QUITES, I WANTED A LIFE, AND THIS WASN'T IT, I NEVER PLAYED SPORTS, KEPT MY NOSE CLEAN, AND NOW THAT MY STEPFATHER QUIT FARMING, HIS DAD WANTS ME TO TAKE OVER HIS 500 ACRE WHEAT FARM, STARTING YOUNG ISN'T HARD, IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, AND HAVE PEOPLE WILLING TO HELP YOU, I LOOK BACK AT THE PEOPLE WHO DID NOTHING IN SCHOOL AND MOMMY AND DADDY GAVE THEM EVERYTHING, THEY ARE STILL STUCK IN SCHOOL AND WASTING THEIR TIME, I HAVE 2 DEGREES, AND TELL THE #1, AND #2 PERSON IN MY GRADUATING CLASS WHAT TO DO EVERYDAY, I ALWAYS HAD A NICE TRUCK, I PAID FOR, AND WAS CRITISIZED BECAUSE I ALWAYS AHD A TRAILER, OR PEICE OF EQUIPMENT WITH ME AT SCHOOL, IF YOU ARE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT STARTING YOUNG REMEMBER ONE THING, YOU ONLY GET OUT WHAT YOU PUT IN, I WORKED MY TAIL END OFF AND IT SHOWED, YOU CAN DO THE SAME, AND I RESPECT YOU FOR WANTING TO GET GOING YOUNG

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