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wkw

02-07-2007 21:48:58

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I would like to build an outdoor riding ring for my wife. She would like to have a 200x100 ft ring. I need to know if I can do the landmoving/landscaping with the equipment I have and if I would need any other attachments. I would prefer to hire some heavy equipment to do this but I live in an area of Alberta that has a lot of oilfiel construction and exploration occurring. The equipment owners charge us farm types the same rates as the oil companies but they want cash with no receipts.

My current equipment consists of a 1965 B414 in good running condition with an Allied 100 loader. I have a 6 ft rear blade and an 8 ft chainlink harrow. I also have one of the following "road graders" for my 3pt that is 7 ft.
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I know that I have probably left out some very important information for proper answers but ask away and I"ll try to provide.

This is my first year owning a tractor so I might not seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer.

I appreciate any advice that you all may be able to provide.

Thanks
Ken
Hesketh, Alberta

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PhilcaseinWPa

02-08-2007 11:10:00

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Re: Need advice on building an outdoor riding ring in reply to wkw, 02-07-2007 21:48:58

My sister just put in a ring this summer on my farm. Sort of a trade for labor. She had it contracted out. about 75 X 150 or so. Definetly not level to begin with. One corner is about 8 foot below original grade and the opposite is about 6 foot above original grade. Was supposed to take a little over a week. A little over a week is 6 weeks I guess. Whole thing is domed in the middle and 4 -5 inches of sand on top. Edged with old telephone poles lying down. I was sure this would be nothing but a *@!@**$##%@! mudhole and mess and was so upset all during June into July I couldn't enjoy my coffee on the front porch.
BUT it turned out nice. I have no idea what it cost her and so far the tax man hasn't been around to change my assessment. KOW Now I have just about the biggest litter pan in PA. If I get the chance I will post some pictures tomorrow.
Phil

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wkw

02-08-2007 08:06:45

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Re: Need advice on building an outdoor riding ring in reply to wkw, 02-07-2007 21:48:58

Thanks for the responses.
We don"t have much for topsoil at my place. We are at the bottom of a large creek coulee. Not a lot of level spots on my place. I might have to develop the ring so it slopes all in one direction. Is that ok? I am not sure what plastic drainage tile is and how I would install it and where do I drain it to.

Our soil is predominantly bentonite was you get past the very shallow topsoil.

You can get an idea of the lay of our land from photos I have on webshot at:
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Look in the albums labeled "2005 Foal" and "First Deer Hunt" - that was my wifes very first effort at deer hunting and is out my "back door" on my place.

If I use drainage tile should I still berm and swale on the "uphill" side of the ring?

Thanks very much
Ken

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Mike (WA)

02-08-2007 08:31:11

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Re: Need advice on building an outdoor riding ring in reply to wkw, 02-08-2007 08:06:45

It really needs to be level (actually, crowned a little in the middle for drainage)- The horse gets his signals muddled if outside influences (the up and down slope) are competing with input from the rider, and its just about impossible for him to sort them out.

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jhill52

02-08-2007 08:24:03

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Re: Need advice on building an outdoor riding ring in reply to wkw, 02-08-2007 08:06:45

Looks pretty dry where you are. I wouldn't worry too much about drainage. Remove topsoil. It would be best to bring in subsoil to raise bed to level with surrounding area. Grade so its high in center. Add 6 inches of firm sand on top and grade out. Might need a plow to break up the topsoil for removal.

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wkw

02-08-2007 08:30:21

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Re: Need advice on building an outdoor riding ring in reply to jhill52, 02-08-2007 08:24:03

Yes, it can get very dry here. We are in the Badlands of Alberta.

Can someone post a picture of the type of plow I should get. I am an absolute neophyte in these matters but really want to learn and to do it right.

thanks again
Ken

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wkw

02-08-2007 08:11:00

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Re: Need advice on building an outdoor riding ring in reply to wkw, 02-08-2007 08:06:45

You can get a good idea of the lay of the land from pictures in the album labeled "Foal Pictures" as well.
Ken

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evilboweviel

02-08-2007 05:52:45

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Re: Need advice on building an outdoor riding ring in reply to wkw, 02-07-2007 21:48:58

a two bottom three point plow would be very handy and a post hole digger for the posts. plow it up as deep as the top soil is and move it way out of the way with the loader. then plow up the sub soil and move it around to get it level with a crown in the middle. use the loader to then dig down and install some plastic drainage tile to drain it about 40-50 feet apart. backfill and regrade with a crown then if you need to build back up go else on site and get more subsoil by plowing removing topsoil and then plowing and moving the subsoil over.
Now you can build your fence not before
Use the topsoil to make a nice raised bed garden, flower beds, etc.
Enjoy yourself
HOWEVER this goes out the window if it needs to be done NOW then you hire somebody and swallow hard. Wife must be happy to be able to have a tractor around
Ron

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jhill52

02-08-2007 05:46:43

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Re: Need advice on building an outdoor riding ring in reply to wkw, 02-07-2007 21:48:58

Yes you can - maybe . Basically you grade the base so it has a crown to drain the water away and then cap it with a firm sand. Do a Google search the are aeveral sites that give instructions on hoe to do it. Depending on you soil it may take a dozer to shape the base but you can certainly spread the sand.

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Allan In NE

02-08-2007 04:20:10

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Re: Need advice on building an outdoor riding ring in reply to wkw, 02-07-2007 21:48:58

I've got the same trouble here.

My wife just ordered a horse blanket for a coming foal and she wants to keep the mare in the barn.

Gimme strength! :>(

Allan

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wkw

02-08-2007 14:49:57

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Re: Need advice on building an outdoor riding ring in reply to Allan In NE, 02-08-2007 04:20:10

Just bring the baby in the house! I'm sure my wife would if I wasn't around!! Honest, its is like Green Acres at my place.

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big hunter

02-08-2007 03:54:00

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Re: Need advice on building an outdoor riding ring in reply to wkw, 02-07-2007 21:48:58

make sure you get your subgrade so it drains (crown in the middle)

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williamf

02-08-2007 02:30:53

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Re: Need advice on building an outdoor riding ring in reply to wkw, 02-07-2007 21:48:58

Short answer is, "Yes, you can."
Longer version is, "That depends." on terrain (how much dirt will you have to move/fill), soil type (or is it solid rock?), how much time she is going to give you to get it done, etc.
If you're under no time constraints and the ground is not impervious, go for it. Few things are as gratifying as moving dirt around with your own tractor.
Google around for info on soil prep for riding areas, maybe check out www.tractorbynet.com
Good luck,
Wm

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