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Tpohl

01-31-2007 05:57:35




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I just had a 40X60 pole barn put up. I am wanting to concrete 1/2 of it. Should I put a footing on the outside walls? I know I need to for the doors and the end of it(where I end it in the middle). Does it only help keep mice and rats from digging underneath? thanks for all your help




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Boog

02-01-2007 05:24:32




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 Re: Pole Barn Concrete in reply to Tpohl, 01-31-2007 05:57:35  
Footers are for 2 things. If you live in an area where the ground can freeze below the thickness of your concrete, a footer going down further prevents frost-heave from pushing up the edges of your pad and cracking it. If you have a structure (walls mostly) on your pad, a footer adds strength and stability for the weight of the structure so the concrete won't crack. Burrowing animals are a 'side-effect/benefit' of a footer.

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traper

01-31-2007 18:42:08




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 Re: Pole Barn Concrete in reply to Tpohl, 01-31-2007 05:57:35  
Tpohl//Another aproch if you are using 2/by for cross slats dig in treated 2/by to grade height of finish floor donot fastin to posts.This acts as form and by leaving it there will keep criters from diging.Donot fasten metal to this board this way it can float with frost and floor.



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Clint Youse

01-31-2007 15:46:08




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 Re: Pole Barn Concrete in reply to Tpohl, 01-31-2007 05:57:35  
Have a 40x 100 all concrete it is a waste but i did not build it park stuff on half of it use other half as shop the half i park old junk always got a oil leak or some thing else to clean up if it was rock would not have to worry about it. Also Got a 54x60 at my dad's place concreted the front 24ft works great can work on any thing up gront use the back for parking when we poured it just used the bottom board for a form then run a 2x6 along the back gud down about 8inches below the bottom of the concrete all around the outside and reinforced it real good with plenty of rebar. then in the back we put base rock down to level it all up and the base rock will pack in pretty tight

Clint

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msb

01-31-2007 13:26:47




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 Re: Pole Barn Concrete in reply to Tpohl, 01-31-2007 05:57:35  
Footer should a spade wide and a spade deep to keep burrowing animals from digging under the floor.



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rad

01-31-2007 10:16:08




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 Re: Pole Barn Concrete in reply to Tpohl, 01-31-2007 05:57:35  
I'm with the concrete the whole barn crowd. I built a 30x60 barn several years ago and only put concrete into two bays of the 5 bays. Regretted it ever since so am pouring concrete in the remaining three bays today! Hooray! I expect the little digging critters will find 6" of concrete a bit of a challenge. One thing I'd recommend is to leave a 1" (or so) offset between the slab and the taper. This should keep water from blowing in as easily.

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Brian in Ohio

01-31-2007 08:24:20




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 Re: Pole Barn Concrete in reply to Tpohl, 01-31-2007 05:57:35  
Not only should you concrete the whole floor, but you might also want to consider laying the lines for radiant floor heat. Even if you don't use it right away, having the lines already in will be nice for when you do. They are wonderful on days when it's 2 degrees outside.



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Robert Searcy

01-31-2007 07:10:39




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 Re: Pole Barn Concrete in reply to Tpohl, 01-31-2007 05:57:35  
I have had both, barns with, barns without concrete.

CONCRETE THE WHOLE THING !!!!

My only reason for not would be if you are putting livestock of some sort in an area.

Dont forget to put in a floor drain as well. This is a must for keeping clean

If you really think you can keep mice out of a barn = GOOD LUCK..... ....

they will come in when you run the door open or closed or have it open while you are working when its nice outside.

I have 5.5" in my current 60x60 and it cost about 9500 to have it done

it is wonderful!!!

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dds-inc

01-31-2007 14:06:14




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 Re: Pole Barn Concrete in reply to Robert Searcy, 01-31-2007 07:10:39  
You above, you got the MONEY to give him to pour a whole floor of concrete??



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Sand Flat Bob

01-31-2007 11:41:03




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 Re: Pole Barn Concrete in reply to Robert Searcy, 01-31-2007 07:10:39  
Better check on floor drains, if it is in a shop, a lot of areas of the country, it is illegal because of oil etc. flowing out. Better be safe than sorry. I have heard lots of other arguments against floor drains. Better to slope floor to a big outside door. My thoughts, it is your nickel.

Bob



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John in Ne.

01-31-2007 07:10:20




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 Re: Pole Barn Concrete in reply to Tpohl, 01-31-2007 05:57:35  
My 40 x 60 pole shed was finished just about a year ago. The contractor used the bottom board as a partial form. the tin was fastened about half way up on the board,a little concrete came out under it which was ok.I did the whole floor,At $3.00 a sq.ft. was $7200.00,but it is nice! John.



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Steve Crum

01-31-2007 06:54:56




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 Re: Pole Barn Concrete in reply to Tpohl, 01-31-2007 05:57:35  
I finished my 37' x 48' polebarn last year, I concreted half of it for my garage bays. I'm finding myself saying "geez I wish I had done the whole thing while I was at it".



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Larry from Mich.

01-31-2007 06:02:55




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 Re: Pole Barn Concrete in reply to Tpohl, 01-31-2007 05:57:35  
You can go to exterior of the bld. and dig down and install treated plywood under ground (approx. 1' will do.) or dig down inside and pour concrete. Both work well.



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