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Stick in roof/ceiling trouble

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old

01-23-2007 08:44:42




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Well as some of you know I have a stick in my roof/ceiling. Well I went up on the roof yesterday to have a look and found I don't have just one but I have 2 of them in my roof.Now I have to do the waiting game. I have to get estimates on the cost to fix, which will take forever then wait on FEMA and red cross to see if they will throw some money at me and hope it doesn't rain or snow before they all get there things lined up. I'd fix it now but if I do then thats just throwing money away but if I don't it may cost more. I just love to hate the govorment and the way they do thing

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david from mo

01-24-2007 18:38:28




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
old you have mail



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135 Fan

01-24-2007 15:58:10




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
Hey old, glad your feeling better. Well sort of. I can't believe some of the comments on here. I used to live in an older mobile home and you're right. The insurance is rediculous. You could have a brand new mansion with an attached garage and pay about a third what it would cost for a mobile. Try to get someone to fix the furnace. Most won't even come to look at it. An act of nature damaged your roof and you are looking into programs that can help you to get it fixed. That's why they have these programs. How fast they act to help is another story. Did I get this right? You can be assured that if any of these people getting on your case had their house damaged by something beyond their control they'd be looking for help as well. As far as getting handouts, these people should be more informed. You are a vet and fought for your country. That should mean something. All the refugees that come are given money and other help to get them established. I knew a guy that spent about 10 years in jail. When he got out he got $10,000 from the gov't so he could get re-established. His dad was a millionaire! All you want is a little help to get your roof fixed. It certainly doesn't deserve all the flack you're getting. Hopefully it won't take too long to get all the red tape sorted out. Good Luck! If only the roof was steel... You could weld it solid and never have to worry about it. Hang in there! Dave

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old

01-24-2007 17:17:05




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to 135 Fan, 01-24-2007 15:58:10  
Thanks for you kind words.



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DCM

01-24-2007 10:49:43




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
Sorry to read about your difficulties old but I know that it was "old" who responded to my 8N questions and electrical ground questions when I needed answers.Thankyou.Wish I could do more.May God bless you.Dan in Alberta



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Trying to help

01-24-2007 09:54:09




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
Old,
Please list the tractors and equipment that you have for sale along with the condition and price.
Maybe some of the guys on this board can buy one or two to help get you on your feet.
God bless.....



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old

01-24-2007 10:05:53




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Trying to help, 01-24-2007 09:54:09  
Most are on the web site, not all of them but most of them. Its just been a bad year



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Question for Old

01-24-2007 06:10:33




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
How are you disabled? You are able to get on the roof to see 2 holes. You can get on and ride old, rough riding tractors. You cant afford to fix your roof but you pay for internet access and have your own website. Apparently you can type so you could take some classes and do medical transcription for work and make well over your $1000 a month welfare. Heck you can even do alot of stuff from home on your computer.

I am sick if seeing people taking advantage of the "system". There are programs to get you work. I am also tired of seeing "handicap" people at walmart pushing out carts full of crap out to their big 4 wheel drive diesel pickups.

This country is going to he!! in a handbasket.

Go get a job.

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rustyj14

01-25-2007 10:29:37




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Question for Old, 01-24-2007 06:10:33  
I think, if you can't treat folks nicely in this forum, that you'd be lots better off in some other location than here! Obviously you have an inflated idea of your worth, which, from your post-isn't much! Go pester somebody in another forum, not us! Or, better yet, leave the country! I'm quite sure we could get enough donations to buy you a ticket to Afghanistan, or Iraq, or another location, where you can spew yer crap to the media!

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varmint

01-24-2007 09:13:00




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Question for Old, 01-24-2007 06:10:33  
you got a big mouth, bud



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old

01-24-2007 08:34:12




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Question for Old, 01-24-2007 06:10:33  
You judge but you have no idea much if any thing about me. Yes I can get on my roof, yes I can walk some, yes I use my tractors BUT. That all you know about me. A doctor forced me to retire not me, I've tried to find work but so far no luck. Walk in my shoes for a month and see where you would be, I'm sure you would find out if you could that its no fun being in pain 24-7. Not being able to do the thing you did just 10 years ago and 75% of it because of a crime and the guy that did it never so much as spent a minute in jail. Unless you can see and know every thing there is about a person you shouldn't judge him and I know none of you guy really know me you just know what I say here.

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James22

01-24-2007 09:51:48




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-24-2007 08:34:12  
I didn't understand being able to work on tractors, hunt, tractor pull and also the ability to climb on the roof and still be too disabled to work. However, if all you say is true and you need a couple hundred dollars to fix your roof, post your home phone number and I'll call for an address, or post your address and either way I'll send a check. I'd rather help someone whom from all appearances appears to be a good person rather than send everything to New Orleans where they could very easily use the money to buy drugs or guns to shoot someone.

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old

01-24-2007 12:08:56




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to James22, 01-24-2007 09:51:48  
James Thanks, and you know what and why I'm saying this. Ya I can do some stuff but not much for a long period of time. When you called I was moveing a hay bale and as you can see I'm back in the house again. I can do about an hour on a tractor and then have to get off and take it easy for 2 or 3 hours before I can do much more.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH

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old

01-24-2007 10:04:27




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to James22, 01-24-2007 09:51:48  
Well I almost always post my web site and my info is in it. I don't want money form people but figureew red cross and FEMA are set up to help. Ya just a couple hundred would do the job and figure thats why theres red cross and FEMA. Be lieve me I wish I could work a full time job but I can't. I can wrok on tractors etc because I can do it for say and hour then walk away from it till tomorrow. I never spend more then a few hour a day playing with/on the tractors and I haven't found a job yet that will let you work till you have to stop and let you then walk away and sit down etc.

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Steve yes Im in Iowa

01-24-2007 09:06:01




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-24-2007 08:34:12  
Old I mean no offense. Thats why i asked about your disability. I was awaiting your response. Maybe my priorities in life are different than yours. If I had a hole in my roof I would make sure it got fixed right away to avoid other damage. Even if I had to give up my Internet access for some time or even sell something cheaper than usual to ensure a quick sale.

The job situations I gave were merely suggestions but I can see how they could seem as personal attacks, for which I apologize, But If you are a vet or have a disablity there are programs to get you work. Where are you located? Job service can get you training into a job that will allow you to better yourself. If there is nothing where you are, then move to a place where you can better yourself.

Hi Keith-OR, dont feel this reply was because of anything you said. Old replied on his own he doesnt need a babysitter.

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old

01-24-2007 09:27:38




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Steve yes Im in Iowa, 01-24-2007 09:06:01  
First off I can't begin to afford to move even if I wanted to. I inherted the land I own and its family land so I'll keep it. Right now I'm in a program tring to get a job Voc-rehab but again no luck so far. Its very hard to find or do work when you have to be able to sit when you need to and then stand when you need. I can't sit or stand for long periods of time and have to get up and down a lot which doesn't work for getting work. Yes theres a lot of things I can do if I can do them on my terms which doesn't work for a job. I've lived with this since 1995 and had surgury on Jan. or 1996 which did make thigs better but thats all at least I can now walk on my own. Most of what I have now is because when I got my SSDI I got a big check and I tried to use it so I could make money down the road and it did work till gas prices got so high and I haven't sold a tractor in years. And yes I will fix the roof NO MATTER WHAT but I would like to do it the right way the first time not just put a temp. fix on it and have to do it over and over again. As I said walk in my shoes a month and then say what you have said. Judge me like you have and you will maybe pay for it latter. Judge not less you be judged is what the good book says. Think about it some time. A week ago people wanted to know what happened to me and offered help now people want to shot me because I'm tring to get help. Go figure

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Steve Yes Im in Iowa

01-24-2007 09:51:16




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-24-2007 09:27:38  
Thank You for further explaining your problem. You shouldnt get upset if you only give half of a story and ask for support and not expect people to voice their opinion. I was not the first to go down this line but I am the one getting the most crap. I started out by asking the question of what is your disablity. be mad at me if you like but now all the nay-sayers know the history. Not of how it happened, but of the results. It is easier to offer assistance if we know the full story. you never said anything in the first reply to me about what your true situation was. That being said:

I wish you luck with your continued improvement with your health and hope everything goes well with getting the roof repaired quickly. If you were close I would come over to help with your roof.

I work for myself during the week but spend most of my weekends helping neighbors that need it. But I have been burned by people that say they have no money, have some form of a disability, and complain loudly trying to make people feel sorry for them. So i am a little hardened on this subject. Look around even you have to see that things in America arent as good as they used to be.

I will post no longer here.

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mj

01-24-2007 12:57:00




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Steve Yes Im in Iowa, 01-24-2007 09:51:16  
A-dios M-y F-riend!



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Keith-OR

01-24-2007 07:28:15




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Question for Old, 01-24-2007 06:10:33  
Hey Nora, Springs,IA individual, whats the matter can't even post your name, I can't understand someone that has something to say, but not enough guts to post who you are.

And how do you know that the individuals you are so invious of are on disability or not working. OH! maybe they have a handicapp sticker in their window allowing them to park where they don't have to walk to far....You ever stop to think maybe some of these people that you so readily condemn might be some of our disabled was Vets, someone that was in auto accident, hurt on the job and or born with major medical disabilities.

I see the likes of you everyday when I work with the Special Olympics handicapp, looking down your nose at these people, staring...Get off your damn high horse and give these people a chance to enjoy their life as best they no how.

And further more you are making an assumption that Old got on his roof, he does have a wife and a young son, maybe??? You and a few others keep whinning about he can afford to have a computer and internet., older computer system are a dime a dozen and lots of ISP providers for less than $10.00 an month..

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Steve and Yes I'm In Iowa

01-24-2007 08:53:29




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Keith-OR, 01-24-2007 07:28:15  
Read his first post. "i was up on the roof" Enough said about that.

As for my high horse, there isnt one. I Served in the military over 7 years and would have stayed had my daughter not had problems at birth that required us to move. You seem to be the one jumping to conclusions. I donate time and money to the needy and the truely disabled. If you can climb on your roof and can type on computer there are jobs out there for you.

As for the handicap sticker people it was an observation and my own personal opinion that if you need special parking spot because your back hurts to walk too far, or your knees are bad, you dont need to be getting in a Tall 4wd pick-up and pushing a loaded cart of crap. Buy a Smaller car to help with your comfort and not a rough and tall truck that Is generally harder for a non-handicapped individual to get in.

There was nothing said to you anyway I simply asked Old what his disabilty was and voiced my opinion, as others on here have, and asked for a response. Do you know him personally? I dont. I wanted an answer. If he was on the roof as he stated he was 1/2 way to getting his roof temp fixed. he's waiting for a hand out. Thats my opinion.

now that I am speaking to you, you should respond otherwise let old speak for himself.

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Oldmax

01-25-2007 05:21:02




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Steve and Yes I'm In Iowa, 01-24-2007 08:53:29  
Old I under stand your not being able to fix roof I had an aclies operation three years ago after it had healed Doc. told me my days on a ladder were over not to get on a ladder with round rungs . Said he would mot be able to repair leg again due to the dammage that was done the first time . I have good days & bad days sone days OK some days just plain hurts. What part of MO do you live in I have been looking it Farms in southern MO , I have a brother-n-law that lives about 5 miles from Buycris MO .

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old

01-24-2007 14:20:19




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Steve and Yes I'm In Iowa, 01-24-2007 08:53:29  
Let me say this please. Yes I'm disabled but I'm not dead, I have my pride and I do as much for my self as I can. Yes I can get up on my roof, its almost flat and yes I can sit here and type on the computer for an hour r so. But then I have to get up and do something else. If you where to look on my self above my special chair you would see about 15 bottles of pills. Yes some I don't take often because I hate takeing pills for pain. Some I have to take daily, one for high blood preassure and one for stomach problems. I have a bad back and my L-5-S-1 dics has been removed. I have 2 bad knees and my right shoulder is shoot. Most disable people hate it that they can't do what they did once but we also do our best to do as much as we can for our selfs and in my case also for others. Yes I hunt yes I drive tractors, doctor gets mad when he heres I have, yes I do a lot of other things. But it takes me a week to do what it took me years ago to do in a day.
I'm not asking for a hand out but I,m asking for a hand up so I can keep liveing the way I do. If I don't keep active I have to go the phycal threrphy and guess waht thats payed for by medicare so it costs the tax payer even more so I keep as active as I can so I don't have to see doctors and do the other stuff.

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Keith-OR

01-24-2007 10:37:03




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Steve and Yes I'm In Iowa, 01-24-2007 08:53:29  
Yeppers,I claim to be a friend of Old's, even though never having the oppertunity to personal meet him. I was raised old school, you stick up for friends,family and neighbors. And try not to judge a book by it's cover. I commend you for your service time. I enlisted Feb.1959 final ETS April 28,1968 US Army, Life time member of the DAV.

And if I remember correctly this is an open forum, and I do not recall Old responding personally to you either. No disrespect intended!!

I deal with handi-capp each and everyday, have a son born with cerebral-palsi and brain damage, now 20 soon to be 21 (Shawn), It has been an honor to be his father and getting to know his friends. Am active with the Special Olympics in my area, which is a great honor and privelige to work with these wonderful kids and adults (kids).I donot donate money nor time, I get the priveliege of them sharing their time with me!!

I have always tried not to judge another untill I walked in their shoes.

Keith & Shawn

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Hard Knocks

01-24-2007 04:16:46




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
You own a farm,lots of farm equipment,horses,computer and website so I really can't see why you'd expect the gov't to fix something minor like a hole or two in the roof.Then again maybe I should have called the gov't to mow the field of hay for me that blew down flat last year during a thunderstorm.



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old

01-24-2007 08:27:38




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Hard Knocks, 01-24-2007 04:16:46  
Ya and a lot of the tractors etc. are for sale and have been for years. Now if the sold which they aren't then it would be a differant story. The big problem here is you judge me but you only see a small very small part of who I am and what my life is. Theres a few old sayings that come to mind. Walk a mile in the other persons shoes. For one.



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Hard Knocks

01-24-2007 09:19:30




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-24-2007 08:27:38  
If the tractors aren't 'selling' you probably need to lower the price if you really want to sell.The gov't (TAXPAYERS) can't do everything for everyone all the time. When Hurricane Isabelle came thru a couple years back I spent the best part of a week cutting trees and repairing fences never occured to me to expect FEMA to step in and I'm far from a Spring chicken with some physical problems but hey its up to me to let them limit what I do or not and when I can't take care of things I'll sell out and move to a situation I can handle. And as a side note with the US being 3 trillion in debt I'd be looking to get far less from the gov't in the future rather than more.

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Keith-OR

01-24-2007 07:05:19




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Hard Knocks, 01-24-2007 04:16:46  
And how much do YOU get in farm subsites or any disaster from government. Or how much do you pad your taxes each year with questionable write offs. Or how much are you paid not to farm your land!!!



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Hard Knocks

01-24-2007 07:17:18




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Keith-OR, 01-24-2007 07:05:19  
I don't get a dime gov't (TAXPAYERS) money for anything and never have and I'm against gov't payments to farmers. My taxes pass muster with the IRS just fine and I don't get paid a dime for not growing anything. If I can't make it farming or whatever its up to me to move on to something I can make it.So since I live in Brick House I can throw all the rocks I feel like(LOL)



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01-24-2007 02:05:38




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
Old you seem to offer help anytime someone's got a question. Awhile back I signed your wife's guest book and she replied with an E-mail. Have her do that with a way to snail mail you a little help. We've been real lucky with the ice and snow and I feel it's the least I can do. Thank You for your service during Nam I also was in the Navy but still training just before it was all over. Come on Spring!! My E-mail contains childfarms. Best of luck with the repairs Jim

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730virgil

01-23-2007 20:42:40




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
i think some of you guys are being hard on old .
he has said before about being disabled . my wife is disabled also . i gave up my job to be home with her as she cannot walk at all . she can't be left alone for more than 2 hours or so . it's good thng she has fair retirement or we would be in a big hurt .



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Ohio Mike

01-23-2007 20:03:17




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
Even if he had insurance may have a deductable. I've seen a lot of good people on some stupid low fixed income and have worked all there lives. They can't make money grow and don't deserve to be treated as second rate citizens. We all need to realize that most people are one bad deal away from needing some help. I beleave if what he says is truth he deserves some help. Most of the time when someone pi$$ing and moaning about someone getting help it's because they don't know what it's like to be down and out. Even if Uncle Sam gives him 500 or 1000 what has it really cost us? Might want to think about taking somthing for nothing when doing taxes this year too, oh wait thats different!!!!!

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Hobo,NC

01-23-2007 18:28:42




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I have seen were you hammer folks that charge a decent wage for their werk and brag that you only charge $35.00 a hour for your side werk. I spec if I started out the month a grand a head of the game I could werk fer less iffin a cash job so I could still receive my disability. You may be a DAV but I am not sure you ever fought in a war. I fell if one put his self in harms way he should be entitled to receive benefits from the V.A. I believe even if one served he should be entitle to enny benefit that izz available to one who served in the military. I do understand that it wuz a low paying job that may not have lead to better ones self. I spec if I had got a hole in my roof I would not be look’in fer the government to repair it fer me If I claimed to have the ability you have I would be to proud to ask fer help. I will say I know zackly how you fell I do not have insurance on my shop, its my lively hood but if mother nature comes and takes it away I will move on and survive. Looks like to me you are look’in fer a new Home out of the deal did you git sum new shoes you know its OK to loot in a disaster area or izz it only ok in Wez’eanna. I am sure folks here would help if only to shot ya a buck or 2 but it looks like you are not will’in to help yerself. Pop rivets a piece of scrap and sum silicon glue will patch the holes. If the government will help you it don’t make enny difference to me I as soon you have the help as enny one Its EZ to be independent when one has hiz health and hard to understand it when one does not . We have had our spats and you know I will tell ya zackly what I am think’in you will never have to wonder about whats on my mind. If you would post a address I would send you sum funds. I am hard headed a hard a$$ independent as enny one but always will’in to pick up a fellow man if I fell he izz will’in to help hiz self, matter of fact it makes me fell good to help sumone. Question are you will’in to help yerself are you do you spec the government to do it .

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old

01-23-2007 19:03:47




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Hobo,NC, 01-23-2007 18:28:42  
I've never said any thing about what some one else cahrges and I understand it you own a dealer ship you have to charge a lot more then what I charge for work because of the over head. Now if things where going well and I was doing some side work it would be one thing but I haven't sold any thing or did a side job in a very long time. Shoot the last time I sold a tractor was 2 years ago and in my area side jobs come once or twice a year. What I can get from red cross isn't all that much but it sure would help. And yes I was not in a war zone but I was in the navy and was in when we where in nam

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Hobo,NC

01-23-2007 19:22:44




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 19:03:47  
I have no problem wif enny one who served and wish I had pulled sum time and think all should pull sum time in the service if only a few years I even pushed my son to serve. Enny benefits available you should git’em. Now git up their and patch that hole in the roof it kin not be that hard. I spec it would be harder to patch a hole in a fender. You chose to live in it I lived in one at one time and iffin a tree falls on my shop I will fix it sumway even tho I spent the money I saved on insurance. You seam to offer help to problems asked freely and its only a small hole I would have thunk the post would have been how do I fix this hole, Folks that live in the Carolinas know very well the damage a ice storm kin cause and the damage a hurricane/tornader kin cause.

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old

01-23-2007 19:35:18




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Hobo,NC, 01-23-2007 19:22:44  
Fixing the 2 holes I have is not a big deal but, and heres the big one. If theres 2 holes I can see from the limbs and there was more then one that hit then theres sure to be more small holes and to fix that takes doing a complete roof coating and I just plain don't have that type of money at this time. Now if one of my tractor sold it would be no big deal. And of course the other problem is the weather and it needing to be a lot warmer to be able to do much if any thing to it right now. All the stuff I find or have on hand says it needs to be 50 plus out to use it

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banjo

01-23-2007 18:26:40




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
All i can say is hope you get it fixed Rich one way or another. I gotta stick by the little guy, he's the one that be by your side when it counts.



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old

01-23-2007 19:06:38




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to banjo , 01-23-2007 18:26:40  
I'll get it fixed one way or the other just would be nice if I could afford the stuff to do it right. I figure with haveing 2 holes I can see right now theres probably more smaller one up there and I will need to coat the whole roof or it will leak all over the place come summer time when it warms up.



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banjo

01-23-2007 19:35:13




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 19:06:38  
Thats what i was saying. I fugure it will get fixed but i don't know why some on here would begrudge you trying to do a good solid lasting repair instead of a hope it holds and no suprize leaks repair.

I don't beleive you was waiting for a handout, but rather wouldn't it be nice to get a little help so you could afford to do it correctly.

Looks like some of the folks worried about you before are ready to string ya up.

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old

01-23-2007 19:41:14




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to banjo, 01-23-2007 19:35:13  
Ya its sort of funny how one day they worry about you and then the next if you say your tring to get help from some thing like FEMA they try to kick you back down again. Guess its human nature to pick a guy up and then when hes almost on his feet let him go



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Hobo,NC

01-23-2007 19:32:22




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 19:06:38  
Evey trailer I lived in I had to coat the roof a ice storm had no effect on it, it wuz a fact of life. I just coated my old shop roof its a fact of life. Every motor home I had i had to coat the roof its the way it izz. You either protect yer investment or live wif the damage even then you do the best you kin do. Metal roofs will leak no matter what even shingles leak I don't think their izz such a thang as a roof that will not leak. Ice storm are not in time it will leak.

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old

01-23-2007 19:11:32




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 Re: Lighten Up, you guys!!! in reply to KEB, 01-23-2007 18:21:44  
Well I figure on using some of the foam to fill it and inslulae it with. Then cover with flashing and roof coating. Problem is the flashing is $40 or so and I figure it will take 2 or 3 5 gallion bucket of roof coat at another $40 or so each and right now I don't even have $10 to my name. Some how it cost a lot to get by when thats all your doing and tring to keep warm with no power



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Brad Wright of MO

01-23-2007 18:16:10




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
look i think many of you are being very closed minded. (thats the nice way to put it) If you were in that situation i'll bet you would want money to help fix your damages. I mean really come on. I dont answer a lot of posts on here but this one really got to me. How can you be so inconsiderate. He obviously does what he can to get by anyway and its not his fault he cant afford insurance. Thats really a bunch of BS i think, look at it from different angles before you go and say something like that especially to someone who has served this country.

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1936

01-23-2007 16:49:03




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
If you own anything more than the cloths you are standing in the R cross is like titz on a boar.



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Keith-OR

01-23-2007 18:17:04




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to 1936, 01-23-2007 16:49:03  
I was just wondering since most are slaming Old for what little FEMA or other agency might help him out a little, How many of you are getting farm subsidy, or crp allowance or any other government give away??? I have a website that shows per state whom has gotten what from the Feds.

I know one large farmer in my area recieved over $100,000 in give aways,and then go to Las Vagas gamble away 50K, while little guy is just making ends meet.

Mexicans come up here illegal, get hurt and go back to Mexico drawing SSI...Go figure!!!!

No disrespect intended, just look and see which side your bread is buttered on....Just my two cents

Keith & Shawn

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old

01-23-2007 19:43:36




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Keith-OR, 01-23-2007 18:17:04  
Keith, sent you an e-mail I think



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Keith-OR

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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 19:43:36  
OK, Rich will check..



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Peabo

01-23-2007 18:54:57




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Keith-OR, 01-23-2007 18:17:04  
You said what was on my mind.



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James in cen Ok

01-23-2007 14:17:37




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
Old: I hope Fema and Red Crosss can help you guys in the ice damage area. I know what is like to be a victim of something you have no control over. I agree the cost of mobile home insurance is ridicules, also as the mobile home gets older, the coverage is no longer replacement, but actual cash value. I understand how our tax dollars go to help others, but forget to take care of our own. If you are a disabled veteran, you should be moved to the top of line. You have already paid your sacrifice. Just my 2 cents. James

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01-23-2007 14:52:36




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to James in cen Ok, 01-23-2007 14:17:37  
Thanks for your kind words. And yes this has at least by the state of Missouri been called a deaster area. I know I'm not the only one that could use help, theres still a lot of people in shelters because of no power and also lots of tree limbs down and just plan a big mess in this area.



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Marv

01-23-2007 13:38:37




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
Snow load collapsed a building on my farm. Thought I had the building fully insured. Not so!!! The fine print said I had coverage on the contents of the building only. Now if it had been multiperil such as wind, fire, hail or even "certified acts of terrorism" I would have been be covered. I even have coverage for fungi and Bacteria damage Gotta read the fine print!!!



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Stinky Cheese

01-23-2007 12:55:55




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 You just gotta love that free government money in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
Wait a minute, that`s my money they are giving away. I ain`t in favor of that.



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Keith-OR

01-23-2007 18:37:06




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 Re: You just gotta love that free government money in reply to Stinky Cheese, 01-23-2007 12:55:55  
If you are so concerned about what little Old might get, then why aren't you emailing, calling or other wise getting in touch with your States' fed. rep and holler about all the money that they are waisting on all Pork barrel spending, and all the other needless spending by state and fed. government..

I am like a few others usually steer clear of this type of thread, but this one really got me boiling... Always nice to sit in judgement of others untill you have to walk a mile in their shoes....

Keith

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old

01-23-2007 13:27:46




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 Re: You just gotta love that free government money in reply to Stinky Cheese, 01-23-2007 12:55:55  
Well think about all the money they send over seas all the time to help the people that are killing our boys. If they can do that they can help the people here at home or at least I think they should



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Jonfarmer

01-23-2007 11:47:07




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
Thats exactly what homeowners insurance is for, if you don't have any coverage, then too bad I doubt if the goverment is going to pay for it. We got a homeowners policy through state farm here. Tried to make a claim last year when a piece of roofing steel came off one of our buildings during a wind storm and hit my truck, but they refused to cover it, said they'd only cover it if my truck was inside one of the buildings and the building either fell down on it, or it burned. Also had a tree fall on a camper, and that wasn't covered either.

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old

01-23-2007 12:29:22




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Jonfarmer, 01-23-2007 11:47:07  
Wish I could afford insurance but it cost more the the house payments so I have to pay for the house but can't the insurance. As far as the govorment yes they will pay at least part of it if this is declared a disaster area which red cross already did



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Luke S

01-23-2007 12:44:50




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 12:29:22  
Old, I am not trying to be smart here, just curious. How did you get a loan on your house without having it insured? I never heard of a bank that would loan money on a house that didn't have insurance on it? Just curious.



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old

01-23-2007 12:55:00




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Luke S, 01-23-2007 12:44:50  
Years ago I did have insurance but as time went they kept the price going up till it reached a point that I couldn't pay it any more. But at that point I had payed all the interest in the loan so all I'm paying now is the priciple so they don't complain about it. And when you live on less then $1000 a month life is hard and you have to cut corners every place you can

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Iowa Jim

01-23-2007 13:00:35




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 12:55:00  
I'd take a hard look at your mortgage, I am sure there is a clause in it that expressly requires insurance.

These days, if you can't afford isurance you can't afford the house!!

Jim



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Dave from MN

01-23-2007 10:51:19




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
I am apt to beleive that that Old is just joking bout getting $ for the roof from the govt for a hole in the roof. I would say if he lost his home and is in a declared disaster area, and his insurance company screws him, dont have state farm or Allstate do you?, he may be able to get something. Hell, I have a month with nothing to do , maybe I'd come on down and help him out.



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old

01-23-2007 12:31:55




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Dave from MN, 01-23-2007 10:51:19  
Its no joke. I can get up to $500 from red cross and if its declared a disaster area FEMA will also jump in to help out. Wish I could afford insurance but I can't since I live in a mobile home they want $1500 or more a year for it which is more then my payments on the place



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JT

01-23-2007 14:36:55




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 12:31:55  
Darn, I thought 750.00 a year for MH insurance was high. I got new policy and am looking for something else, a little cheaper. You might check into AARP through Foremost insurance, that is what I am looking into to maybe save a few bucks, my insurance has doubled in the last 10 years, so I know how you feel. Good luck with your roof, Rich.
Jim



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old

01-23-2007 14:57:01




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to JT , 01-23-2007 14:36:55  
Either way it will get fixed. I would just prefer to be able to fix it the right way and I can't afford to do it the right way with out help. Ya I could just patch it up and it would be ok for a few years but I prefer to fix it the right way and be done with it. By the way the $1500 I quoted was the cheaper insurance that wouldn't even begian to cover what I would think would be needed and would have left so many loop hope that this problem would proably been not covered any how

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Larry806

01-23-2007 10:18:51




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
Your kidding right?? You arn't really one of the cry for the government to save me people are you? You've already been on the roof so decide whether to push them on through or pull them out when you cut them off . Than fix your roof. If its that bad call YOUR ins co. that you pay for. If you didn't have ins. to bad you took your chance



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old

01-23-2007 12:34:13




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Larry806, 01-23-2007 10:18:51  
NOPE. No insurance see the other post for why. I live on less a month then most people make in 2 weeks so I don't have much and right now if you asked me for $10 and said you would give me $1000 I would have to say sorry all I have is a dollar which is the truth.



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No comprendie

01-23-2007 13:38:54




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 12:34:13  
I no understand. You can't afford insurance yet you can afford internet service, computer and website, digital camera obviously. Priorities wrong maybe?



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old

01-23-2007 13:55:46




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to No comprendie, 01-23-2007 13:38:54  
Computer when new less the $700. Internet $20 or so a month. Web site $9 a month. Insurance if I had it more then $150 a month so you figure it out. No way that $30 a month will begiain to pay a $150 a month bill. By the way my computer is 3 or 4 years old and is a basic system



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Steve From Arkansas

01-23-2007 10:05:02




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
Rich,

Seems everyone is giving you a hard time over this stick in the roof. I thought all along that you should leave it there , put a few stuffed coons on it and pretend your sitting in the middle of Bass Pro there in Springfield.LOL



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Bus Driver

01-23-2007 09:48:01




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
You have a website, pictures posted, so some type camera for that. Work on tractors, perhaps own some. Some assets are there. Pleading "In Forma Pauperis" just will not work. The helping hand is at the end of your arm.



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big hunter

01-23-2007 09:39:43




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
geesh everybody is looking for handouts now, whatever happened to taking responsibility for yourself, maybe the government dropped the stick



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big hunter

01-23-2007 09:39:35




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
geesh everybody is looking for handouts now, whatever happened to taking responsibility for yourself, maybe the government dropped the stick



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Nebraska Cowman

01-23-2007 09:32:43




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
I guess I don't understand. Why the hell should the government fix your roof?

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Hobo,NC

01-23-2007 18:23:48




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I like that Pix and think enny one that does not we need to form a posie and go look fer’em. Only thang I dislike about it izz I did not come up wif it. If i had i would post it to he!l froze over.



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Lou

01-23-2007 13:54:08




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-23-2007 09:32:43  
The truth is that goverment shouldnt spend half the money they do. I quit worrying about how much they spend because our best efforts in my life time has not stoped govt from spending a dime. Maybe if they fix Olds roof rather than give it to some crooked polition its a good thing, but govt stop spending, thats a joke.



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Mike M

01-23-2007 10:02:22




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 01-23-2007 09:32:43  
Oh no !!! not the infamous picture and the link !!! Here we go again. LOL



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Nebraska Cowman

01-23-2007 12:49:20




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Hey at least when I post you know who it is.



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Rich Va

01-23-2007 09:16:27




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
Hey old,If you're gonna leave that stick in the roof,you might want to put some goop around it,maybe keep it from leaking.



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JOHN HARMON

01-23-2007 09:16:26




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
Rich: You can have it fixed by the end of the week, waiting on the Goverment may take till the end of the year. Bundle up and get after it.John



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Matt Smith

01-23-2007 09:11:12




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
You are just making excuses. Get up there and fix the roof. Waiting on the government to write you a check is going to be more trouble than it's worth, anyway.



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Mike M

01-23-2007 08:51:08




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 08:44:42  
That's a new saying ? A stick in the roof !

I know alot of people who have a stick up there you know where ! LOL



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Ken Macfarlane

01-23-2007 09:33:00




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Mike M, 01-23-2007 08:51:08  
Why would the gubermint pay to fix a hole from a stick in your roof? I would have a hard time getting the insurance company to pay for that even.



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old

01-23-2007 12:38:04




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 01-23-2007 09:33:00  
For the same reason back a few years ago when a tornado wiped out a lot of the places in the area FEMA came in and helped out. Thats what FEMA for and its a way for the people to get some of there money back from them



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James2

01-23-2007 13:40:35




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 12:38:04  
It's a way to get money back from them? It could be if you pay taxes which I doubt you do by living on $1000/month. I'm with the Cowman, you need to fix your own roof.



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old

01-23-2007 13:52:50




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to James2, 01-23-2007 13:40:35  
NO I don't pay taxes any more but I did. I'm disabled and live on SSDI and V.A. benifits I'm a D.A.V. so yes I earned what I have or did.



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biggerred

01-23-2007 16:30:13




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 13:52:50  
Hey Old, SCREW the nay sayers, you earned the $$$ if you are a DAV. You can have a share of the taxes I payed in last year (5 figures), and thanks for your service!!!



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CRUSADER

01-23-2007 16:29:56




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Hi Old,
Glad to hear you and your family are okay, and that the only major damage is the roof where the tree limb went through it. Hope all goes well and you are able to get some Red Cross / Gov't assistance with or for the repairs. You mentioned something that you had to let the insurance go. Have you checked RVOS, or USAA? Being a veteran you may be able to get a policy at a lower rate than what you mentioned you had to pay.

Jim

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old

01-23-2007 16:37:53




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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to CRUSADER, 01-23-2007 16:29:56  
Never heard of those before. Can you tell me more, I know I would like to have insurance but at the prices they have quoted me its just to much



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 Re: Stick in roof/ceiling trouble in reply to old, 01-23-2007 16:37:53  
Hi Old,
I don't have a phone number for RVOS, and now that I think about it they may not have an office in Missouri. They are in Texas and although I have never insured with them my parents and a few others have. USAA is global wide offering insurance, investments, loans, and not sure what all other things. One of the requirements for elegibility is being in the service or a service members family. A phone number for them is 1-800-531-8111. I have content / renters insurance and auto insurance with them and currently have a loan for a vehicle with them with the lowest rate that I could find (car dealer told me he could beat it, but came a little short on delivery). Not sure, but we may switch the home owners policy to them depending on how much it goes up or if it goes up. Give them a call and see what they can do for you. Not everyone likes what they offer, but I've been satisfied so far. LOL, I have had coverage with them in two different states in the US and two different countries. Good Luck with your home repair and hope this helps.

Jim

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