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Dennis in NC

01-17-2007 09:57:06




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How many tons of dirt can i safely load on a 16ft trailer with 2-3500 axels only going 2-3 mi ,no highway.




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E.B. Haymakin'

01-17-2007 20:01:52




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 Re: WEIGHT in reply to Dennis in NC, 01-17-2007 09:57:06  
Personal experience-hire a dump truck.... I have a 16' utility trailer with dual 3500lbs axles. I went to the local cement plant to buy some of their aggregate (rocks) for our driveway. The clerk said how much-I said dont know-I'm just in life for the adventure. He said "How about 2 yards?" I said "Yeah, Thats about a front end loader full." He said "Yeah." Well I go back out to the lot, and stand by my borrowed 1/2 Ford F-150 that belongs to my brother, pulling our 16' trailer. Not much later, guess what pulls up-the biggest damn front end loader Caterpillar ever made, with bucket struck full of river rock aggregate (about1/2"to1" rock). Well, the operator, motioned to the trailer, and dumbfounded I just nodded back. I didnt know metal made such loud noises under stress. The the wheels met the top of the fenders, and the pickups springs were flattened out. The nose of the pickup was pointing nearly straight up. I barely made it home, I was only about 2 miles from home-luckily, hire a dump truck. Ed

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RAB

01-17-2007 14:05:16




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 Re: WEIGHT in reply to Dennis in NC, 01-17-2007 09:57:06  
Don"t forgget max tyre ratings as well. They can heat and fail quite quickly. They may not be the limiting factor, but need considering as they could fail later at higher speed.
RAB



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Don LC

01-17-2007 12:59:36




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 Re: WEIGHT in reply to Dennis in NC, 01-17-2007 09:57:06  
...You can say you safly can haul 2,000.....

..... ....2 --- 3,500# axels =7;000#
.LESS..... ...trailer weight =2,500#

..... ..... ..... ..PAY LOAD =4,500#
..... ..... ..... .SAFE LOAD =4,000#



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Janicholson

01-17-2007 12:22:37




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 Re: WEIGHT in reply to Dennis in NC, 01-17-2007 09:57:06  
If you load it uniformly you could put dirt about one foot deep in the center and taper it out to about four feet wide over the length of the trailer. If it was wet, I would be a little conservative on it. About 2 cubic yards spread out. 2 cubic yards will squash and flow ofer a 1/2 ton normal bed PU. JimN



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Ohio Mike

01-17-2007 11:40:31




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 Re: WEIGHT in reply to Dennis in NC, 01-17-2007 09:57:06  
Just a thought, make sure you have the trailer weight correct. I have two 16 foot trailers, empty one is 1700 lb and the other is 4100 lb and both have two 3500 lb axles.



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RustyFarmall

01-17-2007 11:05:51




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 Re: WEIGHT in reply to Dennis in NC, 01-17-2007 09:57:06  
O.K. 2 3500# axles will give you a capacity of 7,000#, or 3.5 tons, but, you already have the weight of the empty trailer, about 1 ton, on those axles, so that leaves you 5,000#, or 2.5 tons of payload. Now, and here is the tricky part, how much of the payload that you put on the trailer is actually being placed on the tow vehicle, and how does that effect just how much you can haul on the trailer? I don't really know the answer to that question, but to avoid doing damage to the axles and springs, maybe you should stop at 3 tons.

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souNdguy

01-17-2007 10:59:28




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 Re: WEIGHT in reply to Dennis in NC, 01-17-2007 09:57:06  
2-3500# axles = gvw of 7k#.. subtract 1700-2000# for trailer weight.. that leaves you with 5300-5000# max payload to be legal. Also, ensure your tow vehicle will handle it. That's looking like 2.5+ tons.. and similar cy

In practice.. you might get away with more weight.. depends on the sturdiness of your trailer and tow vehicle..

Soundguy



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Rick Kr

01-17-2007 10:57:11




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 Re: WEIGHT in reply to Dennis in NC, 01-17-2007 09:57:06  
Dennis,
My understanding on trailer weight... 3500 lbs X 2 = 7000 total weight.

Now subtract weight of trailer 2000 lbs.

5000lbs is what you can carry. Roughly 2 cubic yards.

Rick



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swms301

01-17-2007 10:41:07




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 Re: WEIGHT in reply to Dennis in NC, 01-17-2007 09:57:06  
first guess for 2 3500# axles would be 3.5 tons, which would be about 3 cy. Axle ratings should have a safety factor. Also depends on what you are pulling the trailer with, tongue weights, etc. No highway helps as far as being legal, but probably cuts the safety factor down quite a bit. Rough bumpy pothole road would seem to make more chance of breaking something. I"m sure I"ll learn if my logic is wrong.

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