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Aaron Ford

01-14-2007 19:41:06

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My local city water is quite poor. Clothes washed mildew in the closets, towels are smelly, and wash-clothes could be used for axle lube after being left to dry on the kitchen sink. We complained but the water guy says there is nothing wrong. He takes water samples and disappears. He has blown the line down a few times, but it makes no difference. Some of my neighbors have the same problem, but few admit it. Vinegar and Borax help in the laundry, but tea and coffee taste horrible.

I installed a Whirlpool whole house water filter last June and the problem went away. The filter clogs quickly. The 6 month poly (premium 5 micron) filter lasted 3 months. When the first filter failed, (laundry started rotting again) we replaced the poly filter. We also purchased a second unit and placed it tandem with the first and equipped it with a carbon filter cartridge. 3 months later, the primary filter had failed again. We found a similar cartidge that looked like a roll of string. It was labelled as a 5 micron filter. We installed this filter in place of the poly filter in the primary position and all our water quality issues returned, even with a carbon filter in the secondary position.

Please advise, as I am totally confused about this situation.

Let"s go Mountaineers,

Aaron

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johnlobb

01-15-2007 16:42:02

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Re: O/T Home Water Filtration in reply to Aaron Ford, 01-14-2007 19:41:06

I have been thru about 5 or 6 water conditioning courses and one of the first things one learns is that everyones well is different. I have great water with just a touch of hardness, great to drink, and each neighbor on both sides of me have lousey water that takes a lot to make even good for washing. There can be many things that can cause what you're describing, the only way to find out is to get a water test. I can send you a bottle that you fill with raw water, put postage on it and send it to a reputable company and they will do a test on it for free. Some things in water like manganese, sulfur and some types of iron react well to oxydizing. There are various ways to do this, some with chemicals, some chemical free. Email me if I can help you. John L.

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Kelly Campbell

01-15-2007 11:21:41

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Re: O/T Home Water Filtration in reply to Aaron Ford, 01-14-2007 19:41:06

What kind of piping do you have, also you might try shutting every thing off...ie the water in to your house, then turn off the water heater, drain it, then open the valve, let the water heater fill then open all of the fluctuates up, you might have some sediment in your water heater/ lines that needs to be blown out... this might help.

Also be sure to take the filters off of the flacutes when you open them up...

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Jerry/MT

01-15-2007 11:03:46

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Re: O/T Home Water Filtration in reply to Aaron Ford, 01-14-2007 19:41:06

With the exception of the carbon filter, the other filters you are using are sediment filters that remove particulate form the water. These filters eventually clogg with particulate and have to be changed. Generally, the lower the micron rating the more often you will have to change them. Carbon filters usually are used to improve the taste of the water when hydrogen sulfide(rotten eggg smell) is present.
It sounds like you have a lot of sedimentin your water and the filters should take care of that.

The other things you complain about could be due to disolved substances in your water that a filter won't take out. If you have city water, it has to meet government standards for wholesomeness and your water district should have records of the water quality that they have to submit to the appropriate state and federal authorities to certify that it's safe to drink. Go to the water district and request a copy of their water analysis data and file a complaint about your water quality. Any water district worth its salt will come out and take a sample for analysis. There might be a break in the main that's allowing contamination in. If so they need to fix it. It is not uncommon for septic tanks to contaminate ground water and have that leak into a broken pipe presnting a severe health risk. If they won't do anything, then find a lab that does water testing(call your County Extension Office for help) and get a sample analyzed. It'll be cheaper than an illness! You can use the results to get the water district to take action if there is a health problem. Drink bottled water until you get this resolved.

Good Luck!

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coflyboy

01-15-2007 09:28:03

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Re: O/T Home Water Filtration in reply to Aaron Ford, 01-14-2007 19:41:06

Possibly your hot water is not hot enough. You might try cranking that up a notch or two.

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Tim, Ohio

01-15-2007 05:17:02

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Re: O/T Home Water Filtration in reply to Aaron Ford, 01-14-2007 19:41:06

Another problem with laundry can occur
if you leave it wet in the washing machine
for any extended time. It will sit in the machine and mildew enough to cause it to smell even when completely dried
in the dryer. The best thing to do is
get it into the dryer as soon as the washing machine is finished with it.
Been there, done that. Wondered why
my clothes had a smell to them after they had been washed.

Tim, Ohio

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Aaron Ford

01-15-2007 12:24:02

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Re: O/T Home Water Filtration in reply to Tim, Ohio, 01-15-2007 05:17:02

That is what the clothes smell like. Like they have been forgotten in the washer for a weekend. But they haven't. It makes no difference how soon the clothes are removed from the washer. They smell... I have found filters on the web as low as 1 micron. This may be too much, but I am heading to Lowes today to see what is available locally. Thanks for the advice. I will be speaking to my County Extension agent. Thanks again

Let's go Mountaineers,

Aaron

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RustyFarmall

01-15-2007 03:09:14

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Re: O/T Home Water Filtration in reply to Aaron Ford, 01-14-2007 19:41:06

Aaron, you should not have to put up with that sort of water quality. You need to do your complaining at a higher level than just the "local water guy".

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DAN9-Midwest

01-15-2007 01:50:41

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Re: O/T Home Water Filtration in reply to Aaron Ford, 01-14-2007 19:41:06

We had similar problems in the past and installed two whole-house Omni filters in the line. We piped around the filters in a "U" pattern so we can bypass them in case they plug or we need to work on them. Then we had a water softening system put in and use potassium chloride? as opposed to sodium chloride salt softener. Look it up on the net.
We change one of our filters maybe every other month or six weeks. One is a straight filter and the oher a charcoal. We would never expect to go six months. At times we have just used the charcoal filter.
I think our setup works and does a fine job at a reasonable expense.

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Mitch Furness

01-15-2007 01:28:06

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Re: O/T Home Water Filtration in reply to Aaron Ford, 01-14-2007 19:41:06

Aaron have you thought of using a rain water tank to supply your house?

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Easy1

01-14-2007 22:22:10

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Re: O/T Home Water Filtration in reply to Aaron Ford, 01-14-2007 19:41:06

I change my filters every month. I have a $1200 non electric softener. Kennetico. Very few people have well water that is perfect.

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Ol Chief

01-14-2007 20:28:08

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Re: O/T Home Water Filtration in reply to Aaron Ford, 01-14-2007 19:41:06

Search the web for a large reverse osmosis system.Ihave seen a big unit advertised but cost $ 3000. Had a VG guarantee.

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Janicholson

01-14-2007 20:16:26

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Re: O/T Home Water Filtration in reply to Aaron Ford, 01-14-2007 19:41:06

Every solution will be expensive. The best I can offer is the use of a sand filter system with low flow, and fine sand, two 55 gallon plastic barrels can effectively filter water. Google the needed assembly. In Montana My 500 ft deep 6" well produced water that had 3700PPM disolved solids and enough natural gas to blow the sink through the countertop if was run into it raw. We had 1000gal degassing tank, a repressurization pump/tank, and a 1800$ reverse osmosis system that would make 25 gal/day of very good water. Those membranes and filters lasted 4 months and cost about 125.00 each change. The only other option was bottled water. JimN

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IaGary

01-14-2007 19:56:40

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Re: O/T Home Water Filtration in reply to Aaron Ford, 01-14-2007 19:41:06

If the first filter system worked but the filter plugs in 3 months so what change the filter every 3 months.

Gary

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01-14-2007 19:52:54

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Re: O/T Home Water Filtration in reply to Aaron Ford, 01-14-2007 19:41:06

Cloth can't mildew if it's dry...you have to have damp and dark for mildew to start. Yes, coffee can taste bad but a cheap Brita can solve that. I'm not double guessing you but it seems that if something is dry, it just flat can't rot or mildew.

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Aaron Ford

01-14-2007 20:57:12

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Re: O/T Home Water Filtration in reply to bo, 01-14-2007 19:52:54

I agree. There could be residual dampness in the clothes after coming out of the dryer. If so, it is nothing that can be felt. Towels have a distinct odor on the first usage and cannot be hung to dry due to the smell. The first time you break a sweat when wearing said clothes, it becomes quite apparent.

I guess my question is what component in the water would get caught in one filter, bypass the other, and not be affected by the carbon...

Just has me baffled.

Let's go Mountaineers,

Aaron

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