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Load rating on I-Beam

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4020

01-09-2007 18:30:00




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I am needing to know what the load rating would be on a piece of I-beam that is 30 feet long. The I-beam is 12" by 6 1/2" with the web(?) being 1/4" thick and each flange(?) being 3/8" thick. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks.




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135 Fan

01-10-2007 21:12:13




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 Re: Load rating on I-Beam in reply to 4020, 01-09-2007 18:30:00  
Most cranes have to be certified. I would have an overhead crane manufacturer design and build it. 30 feet is a major span and not a job that should be attempted by someone without extensive experience. Dave



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JDknut

01-10-2007 04:24:25




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 Re: Load rating on I-Beam in reply to 4020, 01-09-2007 18:30:00  
Billy has it right. You should have an engineer look at it, perhaps your local steel service center has one on their staff. In a beam application, the beam is sized by the moment or bending force applied by the load. That beam of yours looks like a W12x26. In A36 structural steel, a W12x26 beam has an allowable moment of about 67 kip-ft ( a kip is 1000 lbs) at an unbraced length of 7 ft. I can already see that a 30 ft unbraced span is too long for any kind of useful load, you would have to give it lateral support at no more than 7 ft.

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oldcraneguy

01-10-2007 02:38:05




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 Re: Load rating on I-Beam in reply to 4020, 01-09-2007 18:30:00  
In situations like that Ive seen companies weld plate to each side of the web and dbl the size load they were handling, but if you happen to have more I-beam I dont se why you couldnt just weld it on top in the center of your span.. Keep truck rollers up close to the web, learned that one the hard way...



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Billy NY

01-09-2007 23:16:41




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 Re: Load rating on I-Beam in reply to 4020, 01-09-2007 18:30:00  
One of the A.I.S.C. manual of steel construction, A.S.D. (Allowable Stress Design, or the Load & Resistance Factor Design L.R.F.D. might help you after you determine the shape, the letter designates the shape say like a "W" then the web is next say 12, then the last number designates the weight per foot, so a W12 x 26 is a W shape, has a 12" web and weighs 26 lbs. per foot.


I have not looked at any of these in a few years, since I left the hustle and bustle of the high rise building cosntruction industry, but they are good reference books, when you need to know something about steel construction.


If you intend to span something with this beam, and it has to carry a load, I have always been of the opinion that an engineer should look at the details one proposes, to insure that it's ok for the loads imposed on it. It's safe practice and they range from $50 to $100 an hour around here, should not take long to analyze a straight forward detail if all the components are give.

I should refrain from lecturing or pontificating here, but it's important to know for safety reasons, I spent good part of my career, fixing details that did not work in the field, using my knowledge and reference materials, to revise things per field conditions or suggest details for things overlooked in design, that arise in the field during construction, mostly connections and fasteners but also some significant spans, in some instances, all of which were always approved, signed and stamped by a qualified licensed professional engineer after analysis.

You might find an edition of those manuals in the local library and it may shed some light on what you are dealing with, am curious what you are building as well. I see editions on e-bay quite often, older ones are affordable, newer ones are $200 or more.

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caterpillar guy

01-09-2007 19:21:35




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 Re: Load rating on I-Beam in reply to 4020, 01-09-2007 18:30:00  
What are you wanting to do with this beam ? It is not a real heavy beam in the way of strength since it only has a .250 thick web and .375 thick flanges. Is there going to be any support under it in the middle or is this to be a clear span like a hoist beam? probably could pull like a cat or cummins truck engine with it or tractor duals and the like .



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4020

01-09-2007 20:12:35




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 Re: Load rating on I-Beam in reply to caterpillar guy , 01-09-2007 19:21:35  
We are using it as a clear span hoist welded at both ends. We were wanting to know how much this beam can support because if we dont think it is enough, we would weld another beam higher up and brace the two beams together.



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Billy NY

01-09-2007 23:28:06




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 Re: Load rating on I-Beam in reply to 4020, 01-09-2007 20:12:35  
Did not see this below, sounds like you need a hoist arrangement for a shop. With that in mind, guessing is not a good approach ( no one wants to hear that LOL ) Also sounds like a case of having the material on hand already and you would like to make it work, which it may, but it would certainly pay to have it analyzed, rated with a safety factor included, vs. exceeding the load and it subsequently deflecting beyond it's limits and failing with people under it. If you can provide all the details to an engineer, you should be able to get an accurate answer, you need to dimension everything, provide fastening/connection details and also the size of the columns or wall that it will bear on, right to the footing.

That is a significant span. I know if it were me and I did not know but had to do it, I'd be placing temporary shores on either side of the pick to reduce the span, then stow em away later, ( but you did not hear that from me LOL ! )

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