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Installing cylinder sleeves

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37 chief

01-09-2007 14:18:21




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I was going to buy some JD soap like the instructions called for. I found it about 30 miles away, and a cost of 18.00. Now I am going to use liquid soap like other's have done from past information on this sight. Is there any special brand of soap that isn't too hard on O rings. Thanks for any info. Stan




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Larry806

01-09-2007 19:10:05




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 Re: Installing cylinder sleeves in reply to 37 chief, 01-09-2007 14:18:21  
Years ago Cummins told us to use corn or vegetable oil on wet sleves



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bm3501466

01-09-2007 19:04:55




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 Re: Installing cylinder sleeves in reply to 37 chief, 01-09-2007 14:18:21  
My uncle always said he would freeze the sleeves with dry ice and then he would heat up the block, not sure how he did that, but he said they would just drop in.



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matthies

01-09-2007 17:40:14




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 Re: Installing cylinder sleeves in reply to 37 chief, 01-09-2007 14:18:21  
Used some cheap dish soap once, since thats all we had and the boss said to use it on one of our own tractors. Overnight the soap rusted everything it came in contact with. Enough proof for me to buy the JD soap for my customers. chris



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Mike M

01-09-2007 17:29:54




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 Re: Installing cylinder sleeves in reply to 37 chief, 01-09-2007 14:18:21  
I kinda looked at it differently. $18.00 was a small price to pay for something known for sure to be compatiable. Allready spent $1000 so whats a little more ? For sure far cheaper than possible damage from antifreeze in my oil.



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thejdman01

01-09-2007 16:33:08




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 Re: Installing cylinder sleeves in reply to 37 chief, 01-09-2007 14:18:21  
I was once told a long time ago that sopa will create bubbles and cause cavitaion.(by a deere dealer trying to sell me their special blend.) Also told that 15psi pressure wont let soap bubbles form and have used any soap under the counter w/no known problems FROM THAT.



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Mike M

01-10-2007 06:14:04




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 Re: Installing cylinder sleeves in reply to thejdman01, 01-09-2007 16:33:08  
Put some soap in one with a blown head gasket some time and run it. You will have bubbles galore ! I was trying to clean up some of the oil in the radiator before tear down. I think the truckers use tide ,but I didn't have that and used something else.



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TMay

01-09-2007 16:32:39




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 Re: Installing cylinder sleeves in reply to 37 chief, 01-09-2007 14:18:21  
We use to put the sleeves in the freezer for a couple hours. Always made it easier. Just a thought Tim



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the tractor vet

01-09-2007 16:05:42




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 Re: Installing cylinder sleeves in reply to 37 chief, 01-09-2007 14:18:21  
Murphy's OIL SOAP been useing it for many ah moon . Use it to install sleeves and mount tires cheap can find it any place maybe even under the kitchen sink.



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jdemaris

01-09-2007 15:57:40




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 Re: Installing cylinder sleeves in reply to 37 chief, 01-09-2007 14:18:21  
Anything slippery will work fine as long as there is no petroleum in it. There's no special concoction needed. Just make sure the sleeves fall into place with little effort when the o-rings are NOT in. Then - when pushing in the sleeves for final assembly - you know what you feel is the o-ring resistance and nothing else. The issue with Deere is the orange o-rings. They are designed to swell up as soon as they make contact with oil. So, obviously, if you use any oil - you could be in for a mess.

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Hobo,NC

01-09-2007 14:41:52




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 Re: Installing cylinder sleeves in reply to 37 chief, 01-09-2007 14:18:21  
Dura SIL 1000 izz what I use on enny o-ring, it’s the best o-ring lube I have found bar none. I git it at NAPA and kin be found under the AC line if parts, sorry the NAPA # has rubbed off the bottle. Cost around $15.00 but a bottle would last a DIY’er a life time. I have had sleeves you had to drive in past the o-ring but with the Dura sil you could push’em in by hand. Best I kin tell the NAPA # may be 209515

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Roy Suomi

01-09-2007 14:36:55




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 Re: Installing cylinder sleeves in reply to 37 chief, 01-09-2007 14:18:21  
I've used regular dishwashing soap when out of the Deere stuff..However over the years of using the Deere stuff , it reminds me of another product very similar in smell and texture...Murphys oil soap..I haven't tried it but , sure smells the same...



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