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Ford 3600 not starting/is it the starter?

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Kirk Grau

01-01-2007 07:45:34




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Used my 3600 diesel to move some hay on Saturday. Parked it in the drive for a few minutes and when I came back it would not start. Can hear the solenoid click, but no spin at all. Thinking it might not have had a sufficient time to charge the battery I just put a charger on it overnight. Tried to start it Sunday after charging over night and had same results. Now I am wondering if I should go out and pull the starter and take it in for a rebuild. Have not had any electrical issues before.

Thanks in advance.

Kirk

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RodInNS

01-02-2007 16:55:46




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 Re: Ford 3600 not starting/is it the starter? in reply to Kirk Grau, 01-01-2007 07:45:34  
Sounds about like a typical Lucas starter. I think you'll find that the drive is actually hitting the flywheel and not quite engaging. Keep smacking it with the key. It might take 2 or 10 or 15 tries, but it will generally engage. BT/DT many many times. It's rather annoying.... but not a big deal. I would suspect that before I pulled the starter. It's hard to know for sure what's wrong, but I wouldn't ant to tell you to go buy a starter or a solenoid, both of which are rather expensive. Just try it again and again on the key. They usually go...

Rod

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IanC

01-01-2007 14:22:47




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 Re: Ford 3600 not starting/is it the starter? in reply to Kirk Grau, 01-01-2007 07:45:34  
Soleniods on Lucas 5" diesel starters have two functions. When you energize it there is a magnetic field formed that pulls the plunger, and that performs both functions. As the plunger moves it pivots a yoke that moves the drive gear into mesh with the flywheel, then as it reaches the end of its travel it pushes a plunger which in turn pushes a copper disc into contact with both main terminals allowing current to flow to the brushes. If you find no other problems you probably only need a new solenoid. There are three styles, so take your old one with you for the parts person to match.

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old art

01-01-2007 09:38:33




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 Re: Ford 3600 not starting/is it the starter? in reply to Kirk Grau, 01-01-2007 07:45:34  
take the starter off take it apart (cant hurt it now)clean up probley only needs brushes .DTBT
worth the try. old art



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Jeff Oliver

01-01-2007 08:31:32




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 Re: Ford 3600 not starting/is it the starter? in reply to Kirk Grau, 01-01-2007 07:45:34  
Check and clean the battery cables,also check to see if the starter has got stuck on the clywheel. Put the tractor in road gear and rock it backwards as little, sometimes they get stuck and that might let the gear come back out on the starter. We have a H that is bad about doing that,especially if the battery is a little weak.



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frankiee

01-01-2007 08:30:19




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 Re: Ford 3600 not starting/is it the starter? in reply to Kirk Grau, 01-01-2007 07:45:34  
Link

My guess is a bad connection.
I would volt drop the system
The link above describes it better than I could.
The idea of it is:
Electrical current wants to flow thru the wire and starter the way it was desined.
It does not want to go thru the impedence (resistance) of the voltmeter.
Think of it as a water stream
Water wants to go straight down the stream.
If you put another route for the stream to go but it is uphill then the water will not flow because it can just go down the stream.

Now if we add a dam to the stream then the water will start to back up and go up the hill and some water will bypass the dam (resistance)

The idea of the the volt drop test is just measuring how much electrical current is bypassing the wire or starter or what ever.

The more the voltmeter reads means the more it has a bad connection.

For instance Put the positive lead on the battery positive terminal and the negative on the battey post clamp.
If the voltmeter is reading 12 volts, that means that the connection is no good even if it looks good.
Lets think of a fuse.
Put the pos lead on the power side and the neg on the out. If fuse is good then reading should be zero. If voltage is 12 then that means all voltage has to go thru meter and the fuse is blown.
Any how
Site will explain it better then I can.
Might be batt or starter went belly up also. That will come out in the test.

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Coloken

01-01-2007 08:20:17




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 Re: Ford 3600 not starting/is it the starter? in reply to Kirk Grau, 01-01-2007 07:45:34  
Sounds like a tipical bad battery cable connection to me. Hope that is all it is.



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