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My turn on electric fence.

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IaGary

12-31-2006 12:46:26

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All this talk of electric fence has got me thinking of what dad said about electric fence.

Anytime I mentioned putting one up to help keep in cattle inside a bad fence dad would always say thats the lazy farmers way out.

Next thing you knew we would be tearing fence out and putting in a new woven wire or 6 barbed fence.

Some don't consider electric fence by itself a legal fence and can cause some liability issues.

We live on some well traveled roads and I can't afford any cattle on the road.

Gary

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Wayne_In_Illinois

01-01-2007 16:20:23

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Re: My turn on electric fence. in reply to IaGary, 12-31-2006 12:46:26

I ran electric fence for quite awhile without any problems.Thats was with pigs and bucket calf's at that.I trained the piglets early that the fence would bite.Never had them escape the electric fence ever.They were fed good so was no need for them to look elsewhere.

Neighbor down the road had all woven wire fence and couldn't keep his pigs in ever.As they were not fed proper and was lacking something in there diets and they were always out.

Main thing with electric fence was checking it every day.The larger pigs would try to root stuff into the fence.As soon as they heard that fence snapping they backed off and wouldn't mess with it.Had deer tear down some fence one time and with the fence snapping the pigs never gave it a thought to try to escape.

Guess i was lucky but I'm proof positive that if you do it right you can keep hogs in with electric fence.I heard over the years the claim made that you couldn't keep hogs in with electric fence.

We had several pens built with panels for sorting or keeping the boars separated at times.Other then that it was all fenced in with electric fence.Main reason is i didn't want a bunch of permanent fences up at the time.

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Jim Johnson

12-31-2006 15:58:19

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Re: My turn on electric fence. in reply to IaGary, 12-31-2006 12:46:26

Well the reason I use an electric fence is to section off different parts of the pasture for rotational grazing. We have that darn fescue around here and if you just let them go they will graze off all the Brome grass to the point of no return, we also mix Clover in too and it can be too thick at the start to leave them on it for too long a time. I guess I'm lucky because we don't have any trouble with the electrified fences, but we don't have any keeping them off a main highway, that would bother me a little. Also some are rented pastures so I don't want to put up a fence and loose it shortly there after. Jim

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low budget

12-31-2006 15:41:05

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Re: My turn on electric fence. in reply to IaGary, 12-31-2006 12:46:26

Your dad was right, it is the lazy way, but I have plenty of work here already. I have heard a single strand electric is not a legal fence. I use 3 strands of high tensile electric along the busy roads and 2 strands elsewhere. Its really not as expensive a many people think. You need real good corner posts, braced well. Keeping it tight is easy because of the springs and reels, always the worst part of box wire or barbed wire for me. The maintainance is keeping weeds and grass down and replacing insulators. Deer seem to be the worst problem, usually they jump clear but not always, and there go your insulators. This is for dairy cattle, never had luck keeping pigs in anything, but try to move them when its not their idea and forget it. Would like to set up a small pasture with box wire and a hot wire inside as a training area for young heifers, maybe this year. I do use poly wire or smooth electric fence wire for temporary fence. Also have some noncharged barb wire through a wooded and swampy area. Like I said in a post a few days ago I can move groups of animals with a few people holding a length of poly wire, I've even used twine on occasion.

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barnrat

12-31-2006 15:35:14

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Re: My turn on electric fence. in reply to IaGary, 12-31-2006 12:46:26

Guess I'm the odd man out here. I live by single strand electric fence(2 strands for heifers). I do have some barbed wire that I put up(5 strand). I keep it hot, and keep the grass fresh and have no problems. I realise these are just docile old dairy cows. I also live by a fairly busy road, averages 200 tractor trailers a day let alone cars.

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RAW in IA

12-31-2006 14:13:29

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Re: My turn on electric fence. in reply to IaGary, 12-31-2006 12:46:26

We used them for temporary pasture use only. Had sows in a field with electric fence one time. Hadn't been plugged in for a month, but the sows knew where it wasand didn"t bother it. In fact, one sow had her litter earlier than dad expected, and wold't evewn follow her squeeling baby pig across where we took down the fence. Had to pull her across the fenceline!

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WyoDave

12-31-2006 13:35:27

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Re: My turn on electric fence. in reply to IaGary, 12-31-2006 12:46:26

Electric fences aren't permanent fences in my mind, but what do you do with your cornstalks? Are all your fields fenced? I can't stand having fence rows at the end of fields that grow up with weeds, and it seems like a waste not to winter pasture crop ground, so I use temporary electric fences. Put them out in the fall and pick them up when you've grazed a spot.
David

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IaGary

12-31-2006 13:48:04

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Re: My turn on electric fence. in reply to WyoDave, 12-31-2006 13:35:27

Dave

There are 5 fields you can see in the photo.

Every field on the home farm is fenced in permanate.

Farm is split into about 40 acre fields.

There is 8 miles of fence on the home place where the cattle are.

Fence lines will grow into grass after a couple of years of mowing.

Smaller fields are pasture and get rotated and no fences to put up or move,all the fences are there all the time.

Gary

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WyoDave

12-31-2006 13:59:22

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Re: My turn on electric fence. in reply to IaGary, 12-31-2006 13:48:04

I understand. Its amazing how farming is so similar yet so different depending on locations. Looking at this picture I can tell you there is not a fence for 6 miles the direction you're looking. Only permanent pastures are fenced around here.

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David

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Brian in MO

12-31-2006 15:03:43

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Re: My turn on electric fence. in reply to WyoDave, 12-31-2006 13:59:22

Dave is that a average hay field? Looks like you could fall asleep between bales! I know the hay is alot thinner out there but that"s thin, around here we wouldn"t even bale something that thin. Just another difference in farming from one place to another I guess. Brian

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WyoDave

12-31-2006 15:14:44

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Re: My turn on electric fence. in reply to Brian in MO, 12-31-2006 15:03:43

Thats fairly average for 3rd cutting grass hay, but the only thing that makes it worth putting up is the price. I got $8 a bale for it this year. Extremely nice grass horse hay. Most of the hay I raise is alfalfa, and yields much better.

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Here is a typical alfalfa field.

David

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IaGary

12-31-2006 13:51:35

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Re: My turn on electric fence. in reply to IaGary, 12-31-2006 13:48:04

Forgot to say cows run on all the corn stalks on this farm also. About 240 acres of stalks.

And the fences are around them also.

Gary

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kurt:ky

12-31-2006 13:26:32

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Re: My turn on electric fence. in reply to IaGary, 12-31-2006 12:46:26

I really don't like an electric fence, to much maintanence. A barbed wire fence or a woven wire fence is much better.

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Hard Knocks

12-31-2006 13:15:17

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Re: My turn on electric fence. in reply to IaGary, 12-31-2006 12:46:26

I hate electric fences.You are never done with them always check this check that lightning hits the controller etc etc etc. Just put up a good 4ft tall woven wire fence and forget it for about 20 years and if a person values their time as anything not to mention liability issues
the woven wire will be much cheaper than the electric.One of the best days in my life on the farm was when the last electric fence was done away with.

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IaGary

12-31-2006 13:17:21

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Re: My turn on electric fence. in reply to Hard Knocks, 12-31-2006 13:15:17

Amennnnn!!!

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