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Howard H.

12-27-2006 08:57:45




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Hi -

Coming to work this morning (same route as usual), I noticed a new sign up along the railroad saying "Track warrant required - 20 miles". The sign is next to the track away from the road...

Just curious what that means. Why would a train need a "warrant"??

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Howard




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krm

12-27-2006 15:52:45




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 Re: OT: Railroad question in reply to Howard H., 12-27-2006 08:57:45  
Track warrants are used to move trains from one point to another or one siding to another.Two opposing trains are not allowed into each others track warrant territory to avoid collisions,but still depends on human error in some cases.In most cases warrants are deliver by dispatchers by radio hundreds of miles away.



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Bill from MA

12-27-2006 16:55:42




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 Re: OT: Railroad question in reply to krm, 12-27-2006 15:52:45  
Funny, we were taking a senic train ride, (I forget which if the 3 this year) and were told that changing a switch was done only with the approval of a regional organization 500 miles away.



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Howard H.

12-27-2006 16:55:23




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 Re: OT: Railroad question in reply to krm, 12-27-2006 15:52:45  

It just seemed sort of curious - since I've never seen a sign like that before in 20 years of going up and down that highway.

Plus, I know the railroad spent a bunch of money about 5 years ago putting in a new radio system with antennae ever so many miles...

Dad said when he was growing up down by Lubbock TX some 50 or 60 years ago, they'd save up cream in the cream can until it was full, then leave it at the train depot - and the train would stop and pick it up. Pretty odd they'd stop a train for just that back in the old days...


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Bill(Wis)

12-28-2006 18:30:50




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 Re: OT: Railroad question in reply to Howard H., 12-27-2006 16:55:23  
"Back in the good old days" George Patton stopped a train with his .45 cal revolver. Ever hear about that?



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Tom671

12-27-2006 09:48:49




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 Re: OT: Railroad question in reply to Howard H., 12-27-2006 08:57:45  
Mort
I take it you work for the railroad. That is a long explaination. Very thorough.

Tom671



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Mort Adella

12-27-2006 09:01:18




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 Re: OT: Railroad question in reply to Howard H., 12-27-2006 08:57:45  
As easy as a entry into google search and then a click on any return you choose.

Track warrant
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Track warrants are systematized permissions used on some rail lines instead of or in addition to signals. Train crews communicate by radio with the dispatcher and receive track warrants either for a certain distance (the warrant covering the beginning and ending mileposts of this section) or period of time. Maintenance crews also receive track warrants (usually called "Form B's") in order to perform track work that would otherwise be interrupted by passing trains.

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1 X-Boxes 2 Use 3 See also 4 References


[edit] X-Boxes
Most track warrants in the U.S. follow a standard form as suggested by the General Code of Operating Rules, consisting of several "X-Boxes" to mark specific notes or conditions for a warrant. These vary from temporary speed restrictions to rules regarding meeting other trains.

Box 1- Void on a previous warrant Box 2- Proceed from point to point Box 3- Proceed from point to point (cont.) Box 4- Work between certain limits Box 5- Not in effect until ____ Box 6- Authority expires at ____ Box 7- Not in effect until after the arrival of ____ at ____ Box 8- Hold main track at last named point Box 9- Do not foul limits ahead of ____ Box 10- Clear main track at last named point Box 11- Between ____ and ____ make all movements at restricted speed: limits occupied by train Box 12- Between ____ and ____ make all movements at restricted speed: limits occupied by men or equipment Box 13- Do not exceed ____ mph between _____ and ____ Box 14- Do not exceed ____ mph between _____ and ____ Box 15- Flag protection not required against following trains on same track Box 16- Track bulletins in effect Box 17 and 18- Other specific instructions

[edit] Use
As an example, the BNSF Railway uses track warrants on the "El Paso Sub" line which runs from Belen, New Mexico to El Paso, Texas, with the dispatcher in Fort Worth, Texas. Track warrants are used on the railroad's Harbor Subdivision in Southern California as well, though infrequently since operations on the line were reduced in 2002. There are no electrical signals on either route. Some smaller Class II railroads, such as the Iowa Interstate Railroad, and many Class III railroads are dispatched completely by track warrant.


[edit] See also
Rail terminology Centralized traffic control Direct traffic control Train order

[edit] References
Trainweb GCOR Railroad Controls GCOR Illustration of Track Warrant Control This rail-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.

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