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OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working)

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aches and pains

12-26-2006 17:23:40




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As I sit down here tonight checking up on the ads and posts, I cannot get over the fact that I hurt this bad for my age. I am a 24 year old that works as a service tech at an implement, and I tell you...I didnt even work hard today and my legs, knees and ankles just hurt. I like my job a bunch, and farming and farm equipment is my passion, but gosh, I shouldnt hurt this bad for my age...whats a guy suppose to do...especially at my age????

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Dan hill

12-30-2006 06:02:01




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
I could not stand concrete floors when I was 20 years old.Good soft shoes helped.Floor mats help at work benches.Foot and leg problems went away when I got away from concrete.



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T_Bone

12-27-2006 09:47:13




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Hi A&P,

If a normal med Doc can't help, try a herb Doc as it sounds like a diet problem. Eat out of the fresh vegetable and meat/fish departments only and I bet you see a improvement in a month.

As to concrete, buy some soft rubber pads that are oil tolerant and work off of them. Buy several so you don't have to keep moving them to complete your work. This will help a bunch. Spray paint your name in shocking pink/orange on the back sides so they don't grow legs and walk away.

Leather knee pads with foam rubber incerts works for the knees but puts pressure on the toes to stay on your knees. Better than no knee pads tho.

T_Bone

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Larry NE IL

12-27-2006 09:29:22




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Sounds like it could be fybromyalga (spell?)
Have a doc check you out!



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Bill(Wis)

12-27-2006 09:26:42




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Try aspirin. My Dad used to take eight aspirin a day for his arthritic aches and pains. I mean take it as a preventative measure. Don't wait for the pain to start. He lived to be within about a month of 96. Just don't tell your doctor. My dad made that mistake one time and his doctor told him to get off the aspirin and he prescribed a pain medication. The prescribed pain med caused my Dad's ankle to swell up and he couldn't walk for a while. He threw the meds out and went back to aspirin for 25 more years.

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msb

12-27-2006 08:55:43




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Some people get relief from pain by taking a small amount of tart cherry juice each day.Most larger grocery stores carry it.It is known to contain 10 times more analgesic properties than asprin. Me, I like chocolate covered cherries or cherry pie(Lol) much better and they both actually seem to help too.Yep, with a dip of vanilla.
Might also want the doc to rule out a pylonital cyst.Infection could be settling in your lower extremities.(look it up on Google if you have a strong stomach)

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Shovelman

12-27-2006 08:30:42




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
At 24, you should not be feeling this way. As the others stated, a good bed, good diet, good shoes (I prefer Ecco) and most importantly, a good checkup (including blood work) by a competent MD.

Have you been tested for Lyme disease? If not, ask your doctor if your symptoms warrant a Lyme test as well.

Good luck,
Scott



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DitchWI

12-27-2006 08:04:37




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Good sound advice from everybody. One other thing to check on is the bed you"re sleeping on.
Pretty much have all the same problems as everybody else, but bought a sleep number bed and have not felt better ever since getting it. They may be alittle spending but well worth every penny. Recommended it to a aunt with continuing neck and shoulder pain and since buying one no more problems. Have recomended this bed to several people and nothing but positive feed back. DitchWI

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Kent in KC

12-27-2006 07:38:20




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
I love this web site. Free tractor advice, marital assistance, good comraderie and even health consultation. Well, let me add my two.

It never ceases to amaze me how much better I feel after I started walking five years ago. About three times a week I will walk 3-4 miles, briskly not strolling. It gets your heart rate up, respiration, clears your head and limbers up the back and joints. I highly recommend it for anyone to improve aches and pains, boost mental acuity, lose weight (!), reduce depression and generally feel better about life and yourself.

It costs nothing, requires no special clothing other than a good pair of shoes and can be done in almost any weather or time of day. Try it for a month and see if you don't feel much better. Good luck, compadre.

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thejdman01

12-27-2006 16:10:47




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to Kent in KC, 12-27-2006 07:38:20  
I dont know about you but I sure aint up for walking 3-4 miles after coming home from a 10 hour day. Walking to the fridge for a beer is too much after a hard days work



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Ken L.

12-27-2006 05:14:56




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
I know how you feel. In my late 20s, I started feeling the way you do but, I didn't use my head and try to find what the problems were. For many years I've been a farm & heavy equip. mechanic while being a part time salesperson(almost full time) and I farmed. I'm now 54 and still a heavy equip mechanic. My knees, hips, right shoulder and back are shot. I'm in constant pain. Do yourself a favor and listen to everyone who has responded and take their advice. You're young enough that you can stop more damage to yourself. What I did was not worth what it cost me. Nothing is worth your health. Take care and prevent more problems.

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steve from mo - dangit!

12-27-2006 05:13:34




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 Ouch. in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
I looked at the title first, and I was going to say I"m against working, except that the wife and creditors are a whole lot happier when there"s money coming in.

You"ve got good advice from this bunch of yahoos here - find a doctor who is interested in improving your overall life rather than selling the latest pills on the market, get a physical, ditch the diet sodas, and get some better shoes.

I"d add this:

Make sure you get some strength (weight) training and cardiovascular exercise at least three times a week for at least 45 minutes a session. It"s good for your disposition as well as your health.

Have a chiropracter check your back and neck. Pinched nerves can do what you are describing.

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Ultradog MN

12-27-2006 14:53:45




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 Re: Ouch. in reply to steve from mo - dangit!, 12-27-2006 05:13:34  
"I looked at the title first, and I was going to say I"m against working"

Me too.
Made me think of one of my favorite sayings:
"Work is the downfall of the drinking class"



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Vern-MI

12-27-2006 05:04:16




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Find a good doctor and that ain't easy. They have the same track record as any other profession or about 20% know what they are doing other than billing customers.

Does your family have a record of arthritis, gout or any other ailment?

Don't use any artifical sweetners like Splenda or Aspertane. That stuff is in a lot of products.



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Don L C

12-27-2006 04:41:38




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Get to a good doctor.....you are lacking something in your diet..... you may need a suplement..... .DO IT!!!



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12-27-2006 04:12:32




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
I've worked two jobs for years. Liked both jobs. One had concrete floor, and one didn't. The one with the concrete floor made me hurt as you describe. As soon as I'd walk through the doors,and on to the concrete,I'd start feeling the pains in my leggs and back. The pain would get worse as the shift went on. I've never had back problems. I haven't worked on concrete in about 5 years now. Them pains are gone.

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Nolan

12-27-2006 03:46:11




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
"...my legs, knees and ankles just hurt...."
What are you standing on, and what are on your feet? I'd make a nickle bet that you're not wearing shoes and socks up to the job you're asking of them. There's a reason for brands like Redwing.

And a dippy insert I happen to really like is happyfeet. They've taken me from staggering and moaning at the end of a long day walking on asphalt to just tired, and ready to go the next morning.

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Stumpalump

12-27-2006 03:33:20




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
24 is about the age your growth hormones are not repairing your body as fast anymore. Sounds like you are not letting your body catch up like it needs too. Your not a kid anymore and you will learn why us older folks go to bed early even on the weekends. Your body heals it self at night when you sleep and with a job on your feet allday you need lots of it. Spend a few bucks at a vitamine store or wallmart on some vitimines and especially the joint stuff like Glucosomine.
Slam a protine shake before bed or in the middle of the night for a snak. GNC has a great vitamine called megamen. Remember all that stuff about your fruits and vegatables? Add protine sleep and water and slow down on the all night partys and you will be able to stay healthy. You work all day do you really eat 3 sqare meals a day? That advise didn't do anything for you as a kid but you arn't a kid now. Ask any old person if they wish they would have taken better care of their body? Just make small changes in your lifestyle and keep adding healthy changes in your diet and it won't seem like the party is over.

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Allan In NE

12-27-2006 03:33:20




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Come on out. This ol' boy on the right will show you what aches and pains really are. :>)

Allan

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sd pete

12-27-2006 07:30:46




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to Allan In NE, 12-27-2006 03:33:20  
ouch! that frozen ground and my old bones. ouch again.



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BobHnwOh

12-27-2006 03:23:52




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Aches and pains,I'm 69 and know what you mean,LOL,Bob.



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Hard Knocks

12-27-2006 03:10:58




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Junk food,sodas and not drinking enough water as in pure water will all cause poor overall health and stiffness. One's attitude on life has a lot to do with things.I'm 54 and look foraward to each and every day even though I had a knee operation a couple years ago I feel pretty good and put in daylight to dark days on my farm.Also getting a good nights sleep is important. Smoking, drugs and alcohol are also bad for long term good health.

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Don-Wi

12-26-2006 23:48:42




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
I work 10 hours shifts in a machine shop, and if I'm at the wrong machine without a mat I can get pretty sore. Mostly I just get stiff legs from not moving around enough, but that's kinda normal.

Bad boots will tear you up too, I like the Timberlands I have now, I hear Doc Martins are great but I can't quite afford those. Maybe I can now, but at the last shop I was at I'd have the toe busted out in 3-6 months and I'd go as long as I could on them. Didn't matter how much the boot cost, they all went to heck in about 8 months max. Worse ones were Caterpillar boots, they didn't make it 3 months.

Also, if you were ever a wrestler (or any other intense sport) like I was for 9 years of my life, you'll notice that you have a few aches and pains from some old injuries.

I got lucky and don't have too many related to sports, but my brother, who's 27, has arthritis and had to have one of his knees scoped already because he wrestled up into college. He can't stay on his feet for more than 1 hr and he's starting to hurt a little. He's in good shape, but he's built like a brick siht house, and he's really short and stocky. Weighs a solid 220 on a 5'5" frame. I could be in better shape and I know I'd probably feel a little better if I were back in my wrestling shape (probably about 20 pounds away from being in great shape, but 40-45 pounds from my old wrestling weight)

Long story short- Gotta be in decent shape, have good boots, and preferably a work mat to stand on. Any old High School injuries will start to work their way out on ya once you get a few years away.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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ErnieDD

12-27-2006 00:32:38




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to Don-Wi, 12-26-2006 23:48:42  
Doc Martin's are not what they used to be. They are now made in China, and awful.



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john d

12-26-2006 21:41:17




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Get a complete physical. Get some really good shoes; not a pair that cost $30 off the rack at a discount store. I'd bet the problem comes down to concrete floors and shoes. You might even want to have your doc refer to you an orthopedic doctor to see if your feet have some previously-undiagnosed problem.

Work smart and don't abuse your body; it needs to work another 40+ years.



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New-Gen

12-26-2006 21:28:20




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
I agree with what everybody else here is saying, but one thing I might add is...are you drinking enough water? I"m 52 years old and consider myself very fortunate in that I have minimal aches and pains (Not that I am any expert on taking care of myself by any means)
Definatly see a doctor.



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Easy1

12-26-2006 20:34:05




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
You are too young to feel that bad. Go see a doctor.



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the tractor vet

12-26-2006 20:33:29




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
And just what do you think you will feel like when ya get to my age ???? Being on concret all day long will kill ya if ya don't have the wright shoes- boots on and you will hurt from the bottom to the top , learned that many years ago . When i was fixen tractors i did not stop at 5 in the evening it was more like 10-11 at nite when i would run the white flag up and be back at it by 8 in the morning 6-7 days a week as the boss would get mad if i did not get them in and out and i was the boss the parts chaiser the clean up boy the office personal and the wrench plus the equipment buyer the trucker and what ever other job that came along and a real good pair of boots can make for a long day or a day in comfort .

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Michael Soldan

12-26-2006 21:01:42




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to the tractor vet, 12-26-2006 20:33:29  
Tractor vet is right on the money..cement floors will take out your knees and feet, lower back. You need the best shoes and change them at noon. along with socks. I do not recommend Red Wings, I know several people who have had their feet damaged by bad boots, I am one. I got so bad I couldn't walk my feet were so sore, working 8 hours a day on cement, every step every turn every movement. Got rid of the Red Wings and my feet started getting better. Store replaced them with other brand free of charge. We think one of the steel shanks in the arch was installed crooked. Bathe your feet in warm water when you get home. Make sure your footwear is wide enough for your foot, a scrunched foot gets stiff and sore quick. You're OK its the darned cement floor!!!

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B-maniac

12-26-2006 19:42:06




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
If you are out of shape,then get in shape. You may be straining muscles you don't use enough. If you are in shape (which I believe you must be or you wouldn't have wrote this post) then get a COMPLETE physical including complete blood work. If you love your job and it still aches at your age then somethings drastically wrong. Stress and job disatisfaction can cause fatigue,but I think you ruled that out. Is there undue stress in your personal life? Divorce,excessive child support,custody battles etc?? That will do it too. I think you just need to have the ole oil checked. You can learn a lot from it. Good Luck!

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johndeereman

12-26-2006 19:34:30




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
im also 24 and have lots of aches and pains when i say something at work about my pains they all lagh at me and say whatcha gonna do when you get old but they dont realize that ive worked harder in my short life than lots of people twice my age from the time i was 12 to i finished high school i worked 2 farm jobs plus school and football i had to be in the barn at 3am for the first farm when i got done there id go to the other and feed and get everything ready to milk then go to school and come home start with the first guy all over then go to second guys and do chores and milk get home at around 10 or so on a good night get up and start all over the next dayplus do field work when not in school on weekends and such im payin for it now but i wouldnt change it for the world i got a whole world of knowledge that i otherwise wouldnt have there isnt to much i cant do around the farm i like to think if its on a farm ive seen and done it all. just remember what dont kill you will only make you stronger

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Mike M

12-26-2006 19:30:35




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
I didn't really fall apart until 34 so it aint going to get better. I can't believe all the 70 year olds I know that are on their feet running around all day and can do it .

I hope you have better luck with doctors than me. If you find a good one they may fix you. I end up with some that aren't worth a darn and don't help anything.



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kyhayman

12-26-2006 19:00:22




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Check with a doc. Random aches and pains arent normal. Its unreal the number of people I know (young, 40 and under) who have rhematoid arthritis. Also allegies, etc. I did body work in middle and high school. We used laquer thinner for everything. I've developed a terrible allergy to it. I got a few drops on my hand 8 years ago (at 32), the skin fell off in sheets. I was in the hospital for weeks. They said it had the same effects inside as out.

Rule that out, and look at clothes, shoes, esp shoes, and diet. Fast food, processed meats, etc all have lots of nasty stuff in them that can contribute to joint pain.

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Pooh Bear

12-26-2006 18:26:06




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Do you use a lot of artificial sweeteners
or drink a lot of diet soda.
Check the labels and see if it contains aspartame.

Pooh Bear

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From the June 2006 Idaho Observer: Aspartame - The World's Best Ant Poison contributed by Jan Jensen of WELLthy Choices.

We live in the woods and carpenter ants are a huge problem. We have spent thousands of dollars with Orkin and on ant poisons trying to keep them under control but nothing has helped. So when I read somewhere that aspartame (Nutrasweet) was actually developed as an ant poison and only changed to being considered non-poisonous after it was realized that a lot more money could be made on it as a sweetener than as an ant poison, I decided to give it a try. I opened two packets of aspartame sweetener, and dumped one in a corner of each of our bathrooms. That was 2 yrs ago and I have not seen any carpenter ants for about 9 - 12 months. It works better than the most deadly poisons I have tried. Any time they show up again, I simply dump another package of Nutrasweet in a corner, and they will be gone for a year or so again. Since posting this information I have had many people tell me of their success solving ant problems with this substance, when nothing else worked. We found later that small black ants would not eat the aspartame. It was determined that if you mixed it with apple juice, they would quickly take it back to the nest, and all would be dead within 24 hours, usually. I have found that sometimes it will kill them, and sometimes it does not. Not sure why, may be slightly different species of ants or something.

Fire Ants: We got our first fire ant hill about 2 weeks ago. Poison did not work. We tried aspartame and the ants ignored it until we got a light rain. It was just a sprinkle, enough to moisten the Nutrasweet and ground, but not enough to wash it away. They went crazy, hundreds of them grabbing it and taking it back into the mound. When I checked the mound 2 days later, there was no sign of the fire ants. I even dug the mound up some, and still saw none of them. How does it Work: Aspartame is a neuropoison. It most likely kills the ants by interfering with their nervous system. It could be direct, like stopping their heart, or something more subtle like killing their sense of taste so they can't figure out what is eatable, or smell, so they can't follow their trails, or mis-identify their colonies members, so they start fighting each other. Not sure what causes them to end up dying, just know that for many species of ants it will kill them quickly and effectively. As with any poison I recommend wearing gloves and washing any skin areas that come in contact with this poison, and avoid getting it in your mouth, despite anything the labeling may indicate.

More information on this fantastic poison can be found at: www.dorway.com

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Kent in KC

12-27-2006 07:30:30




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to Pooh Bear, 12-26-2006 18:26:06  
Whoa, I didn't know that! I've been using this stuff for years. Maybe that explains the third eye....



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Dale B

12-26-2006 18:03:36




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Are you taking STATIN type cholesterol med's ?? Lipitor and Zocor both caused major leg pains, memory loss and confusion. I got off of them and I'm much improved ..... ....



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JOHN HARMON

12-26-2006 20:23:50




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to Dale B, 12-26-2006 18:03:36  
What is your Cholestrol Count now that you quit useing prescribed Medications to help control it. I was on Zocor and got to where it was labor to Walk at all so Dr. put me on Liptor 20mg Tabs 1 daily and I got a lot better but my Cholestrol Sky rocketed so he put me, about a month ago on Crestor and now the Leg Cramps and Aches and Pain is returning. I am a 3 heart attack -5 Bypass Surgery and 1 Corated Artery Bypass- Heart Desease Case so I will have to stay this way until???? I will turn 70 years soon so I have no options I guess but to stay on Crestor as ordered. John

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mn.Chuck

12-26-2006 17:49:11




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
I'm real serious. Almost all of has one leg just
a little shorter than the other. Have someone
measure the length from the floor to the top of
your belt on the left and the right-repeat a few
times to be sure-you stand straight and still. If
you vary at all 1/4 " for lots of us,then pickup a
leather heel wedge and put on the side needed to
straighten you up. Don't buy cheap shoes. I have
a friend who couldn't make it without Gluclosamine
taken daily-it didn't help me as much. Elevate your legs at night with a couple pillows. Best for
me is to wear elastic cuffs from your sports store
to slip over your heel-they are snug and may help.
I can't walk far without them. One or two of these
things will help you hopefully. I couldn't have
stayed in business without most of these. There are other reasons but not at your young age. Best
to you. Chuck

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mjbrown

12-26-2006 17:45:58




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Sounds like you should see a doctor to rule out any bad stuff first. Are you in shape? If not you would be amazed what a difference it makes in how you feel physically and mentally. Many employers are getting the message that setting aside work time for fitness is time well spent by their staff and boosts productivity.



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Yugrotcart

12-26-2006 17:45:33




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
If your really that sore, I'd make an appointment and see your doctor. Best to deal with your issues now,before they get worse.

Paul



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`Bernie in MA

12-26-2006 17:45:11




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Sounds like you might have rhumatoid arthritis. A blood test will find it and medicine now might keep it from getting worse. I was 49 when they found mine 22 years ago and I think I had it quite a while before that. Meds have never made all my pain go away but I've been able to work. Try glucosamine. It has helped me. Concentrated cherry juice also.



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Dave from MN

12-26-2006 17:44:54




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
If your 24 years old and that sore after not doing anything out of the ordinary, your either not living, eating ,or getting the right exercise, or should see your doctor for a phycical and blood screening. I injured my lower back at 21, I was in great shape but used a poor lifting position to load large xmas trees onto my trailer to haul to the stock yard ( i'm talking tens of thousands of trees up to 14') I deal pain from that injury any time I sleep funny, cut wood, or do ANYTHING out of my daily routine- almost 17 years later. It sucks, follow Olds advice on the lifting and such, but if you ache that bad from your daily routine at 24 something needs to be done, or changed

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aches and pains...little

12-26-2006 17:35:14




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Forgot to say, I got horrible flat feet besides, but I got custom made inserts from the Mayo Clinic. To a degree, my genetics wont help me here!



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old

12-26-2006 17:31:06




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to aches and pains, 12-26-2006 17:23:40  
Take it from some one whos disabled due to a bad back, knees and shoulder it makes a differance on how you do things and what you wear. Shoes with a good chusion sole are a most. Lift things the right way, use your knees NEVER your back. Stay off cement as much as you can, which I know is next to impossiable. Hot baths also help relax things and even a couple beers after you get home at night.

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steveormary

12-27-2006 11:38:22




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to old, 12-26-2006 17:31:06  
Regarding working. The harder you work the less money you make.

I have a bad back,bum knees and Parkinson disease. So I am not able to do much. I believe the services of a personal trainer,massuse and a cuncubine would help alot. However,I havnt found a concubine and probably couldnt afford one anyway
Just be careful and see a Dr.

sreveormary



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TimS in Mo

12-27-2006 15:01:31




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 Re: OT- whats your opinion? (regarding working) in reply to steveormary, 12-27-2006 11:38:22  
I'll throw my thoughts in here to, get some good shoes, gel or cushion insoles and maybe even arch supports. I've had flat feet my whole life, if my arch supports start getting flattened out or my shoes start getting worn out I start getting leg cramps and joint pain clear up to the lower back.

A new set of shoe and arch supports and the relief is almost immediate....

Remember to use your legs and not your back when lifting stuff, you can overstress your back and cause yourself permanent damage.

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