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clint36

12-18-2006 09:55:58




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theres a whole bunch of hooligans in the chat and all i wanna know about is the diffrence between a 4 stroke diesel and 2 stroke diesel an those dam kids ont there are tlkin bout nasty things




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RustyFarmall

12-18-2006 10:42:35




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 Re: diesels in reply to clint36, 12-18-2006 09:55:58  
That's why I stay away from the chat rooms. A four stroke diesel is just like any other four stroke engine, gas or diesel. You get power on every other stroke. A two stroke gives power on every stroke, just like a chainsaw engine. The Detroit or GMC diesel is a two stroke, might be others.



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mj

12-18-2006 13:13:49




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 Re: diesels in reply to RustyFarmall, 12-18-2006 10:42:35  
Series 60 Detroits are 4-stroke; a good engine.



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RAB

12-18-2006 11:41:13




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 Re: diesels in reply to RustyFarmall, 12-18-2006 10:42:35  
Sorry again Rusty, I am sure you meant you get power every other revolution (four strokes) and not stroke, as in your post. Or maybe every other downward stroke?
Regards, RAB



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RustyFarmall

12-18-2006 11:57:31




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 Re: diesels in reply to RAB, 12-18-2006 11:41:13  
It appears that maybe I have confused my strokes with my revolutions? Strokes is strokes and a revolution takes two of 'em. You're right, and the fact that I realized it is a revelation!



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jdemaris

12-18-2006 12:26:18




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 Re: diesels in reply to RustyFarmall, 12-18-2006 11:57:31  
What is usually called a "two-stroke" today was - years ago - usually referred to as a "two stroke cycle" engine - which makes more sense. Somewhere along the way, one of the words is dropped, and we get "two cycle" or "two stroke" instead. As I understand it - only from reading - i.e. can't say I was there - A British guy named Dugald Clark invented the first working diesel in 1878 - and it was a supercharged two-stroke-cycle machine. It is his design that G.M. Detroit Diesel later adopted in the late 30s. It was also a few years before Rudolph Diesel got his four-stroke-cycle compression engine going in 1893 - which barely ran. His first good one was 1896.

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buickanddeere

12-18-2006 16:14:39




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 Re: diesels in reply to jdemaris, 12-18-2006 12:26:18  
Of all GM divisions, it was Cadilac suprisingly enough that released the 6-71 screaming Jimmy in 1938. The 6-71 seen service in some shipping and was even geared with several engines in tandom per prop. Some were bolted into Sherman tanks as twins. As for best sounding? It's a tossup between a two cylinder Deere and a Detroit Diesel two stroke.



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RAB

12-18-2006 12:07:45




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 Re: diesels in reply to RustyFarmall, 12-18-2006 11:57:31  
Merry Christmas - if that is still PC!
Regards, RAB



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