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joel rand

12-15-2006 08:24:18




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We are going to seed 14 acres this spring with alfalfa brome mix hay, with oats to come up first. We have baling equipment to roundbale oat hay, but we also have a neighbor with a combine if we wanted to cut oats and then square bale straw. In Iowa oats are 60-80 bu/acre and bring $1.35-1.50 bu. Round bales probably $50/bale. We both work off the farm so having the time to get things done is a big issue. What"s the best choice?

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ktheo1

12-16-2006 03:03:29




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 Re: oats or oat hay in reply to joel rand, 12-15-2006 08:24:18  
If you have a place to store 1000 to 1400 bu. of oats cut it for grain and bale the straw.Good oat straw in square bales sellfor $1.50 to $2.25 ea. and if you are around "HORSE" people and willing to sell oats in small batches the grain will sell for $4.00 a bu.



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John A.

12-15-2006 15:33:56




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 Re: oats or oat hay in reply to joel rand, 12-15-2006 08:24:18  
joel rand, Here in Texas, Hay of anykind will bring $45.00, We rolled up After frost, KR Bluestem/Klien grass and got $50/bale.
Good hay put up right will bring $65 up. Sudan cut just prior to frost brought $70.00. #1 coastal burmuda grass will bring $100+.
Oats put up right will bring good money.
To put up oats, cut un late milk/veryearly dough. DO NOT wait till heavy dough or it will shatter and be to strawy. Hope this helps.
Later,
John A.

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hayray

12-15-2006 14:52:02




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 Re: oats or oat hay in reply to joel rand, 12-15-2006 08:24:18  
a lot of animals love the oat hay but it is real hard to get it cut while it is still green enough to not turn into straw. It is also pretty low in protein and is hard to get sold, doubt you are gonna get $50 a round bale for oat hay considering I don't know where you can get $50 a bale anywhere for any kind of hay. So I would combine it. You should not use oats as a nurse crop when you are already planting brome with the alfalfa. You are going to really knock your alfalfa back.

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low budget

12-15-2006 11:35:27




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 Re: oats or oat hay in reply to joel rand, 12-15-2006 08:24:18  
As far as the new seeding is concerned, it's better to get the oats off as hay or better yet balage or silage. If they are left too long they will smother the new seeding. You also want to seed the oats on the light side, a bushel or bushel and a half per acre.



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goatfarmer

12-15-2006 09:23:12




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 Re: oats or oat hay in reply to joel rand, 12-15-2006 08:24:18  
Depends on your equipment. If you have haying equipment, but not a combine, then I would cut them for hay. It makes great feed, and the old-timers call it milk making hay. I make oat hay quite often.
If you own a combine and/or don't have animals to feed, combine them and sell them.
All I know is, that my goats and sheep absolutely love oat hay!



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NEsota

12-15-2006 08:50:52




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 Re: oats or oat hay in reply to joel rand, 12-15-2006 08:24:18  
As we speak, 07 May, Oat Futures are @ $2.73.

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Gerald J.

12-15-2006 08:37:05




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 Re: oats or oat hay in reply to joel rand, 12-15-2006 08:24:18  
You could do better with oats by fertilizing, but that negates their function as a nurse crop holding back weeds from the hay crop.

When I did that, a few years ago, I made as much from oat straw as from oats as grain. You want to be sure to choose an oat variety that is early and that isn't prone to lodging, so probably is a short variety, contrary to the raising of straw. Lodging kills the hay crop underneath.

Cutting oats as green hay works too, animals love it, but it has low protien, I've not had great results selling it.

Making hay is going to cut into your day job unless you have some magic way to control rain and dry spells. It takes 3 or 4 days to dry a hay crop, and the alfalfa mix won't cure evenly. Be sure you have buyers for the mix. Around here (central Iowa) that mix won't sell. A few will buy brome but the alfalfa buyers want pure leafy alfalfa that hasn't seen rain after cutting.

A mower conditioner will cut a day or two from the drying time, but only if you lay a wide windrow and then rake it narrow for baling a day before baling when the hay is still tough.

I gave up growing hay because I found it impossible many Junes to get 3 days early in the month to cut and bale when the alfalfa was prime.

Gerald J.

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