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pafreehling

12-12-2006 18:16:48




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Has anyone who has fed barley had it pay out close to corn in feed input costs. We have a 92 bu average on wheat over 5 years so I would think barley would be camparable yield? Thinking of blending it with corn in a finishing ration this year....any suggestions?




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JMS/MN

12-12-2006 20:15:39




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 Re: barley for beef in reply to pafreehling, 12-12-2006 18:16:48  
Go back a page and read - oats for beef.



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pafreehling

12-12-2006 20:31:18




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 Re: barley for beef in reply to JMS/MN, 12-12-2006 20:15:39  
I knew the feed conversion barley to corn is close on a feed value scale and the information you sent confirms it. I am always looking for options or just trying new things so long as they do not create an irreversible scenerio you then are forced to suffer through for a whole year. The costs associated with raising corn:seed, chemicals, and of course fertilizer (N) are climbing and between oats(youngstock), silage and maybe barley for finish cattle I hope to hold costs down a little bit. Oats are cheap to raise and we get really good yields and I hope barley does OK on input cost to beef production balance sheet.

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JMS/MN

12-12-2006 22:38:02




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 Re: barley for beef in reply to pafreehling, 12-12-2006 20:31:18  
Oats has always been a good feed for dairy calves. Dairy beef and beef calves are another class of feeders. Dairy heifers are meant to be raised to calve at 22-26 months- whole different feeding program. Dairy steers have two options- finish at 1200 or maybe 1600. Early finish requires corn/pellets from starting to finish, heavies will have roughage in the program, and they will not finish until heavier weights. Their frame grows bigger on the roughage program, so they finish heavier. I started raising barley as a nurse crop for alfalfa- found that with the slimmer density of barley- it let the sun shine into the alfalfa so I got a better stand of hay while still providing the dairy with straw and grain for the animals. Straw was less absorbent but by chopping it in the field and blowing it into the haymow- still ended up with good straw. Regarding storage- only reason I went with the Harvestores in the 70s was bad back and lack of options. Now- I'd store in Agbags and feed/mix with skidloader and TMR. Silos are permanent- skidloaders and mixers are easy to sell if you get out of the business. For the size you are talking about- try the bags- here we rent the machine and buy one bag for about $750 for typical size. Summer spoilage?- get a narrow one.

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James2

12-12-2006 20:09:42




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 Re: barley for beef in reply to pafreehling, 12-12-2006 18:16:48  
Haven't feed cattle in many years, but read where barley is almost as good as corn/milo in feed conversion; ie lbs fed to lbs gained. Much better than wheat. But real hard to beat corn. I would expect barley to yield more bushels/acre than wheat, similar to real good oats (guess 120 bu/acre). Also I read that with barley you could cut back on hay or other such roughage.



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the tractor vet

12-12-2006 20:07:45




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 Re: barley for beef in reply to pafreehling, 12-12-2006 18:16:48  
We have been doing it on the feeders for years . I posted below on the mix we use , now as for weight gain i would have to ask my buddys kid as he has been keeping track of the weight gains of each steer .He said one day and it the moment i can not remember . Now the only thing i can say about barley is that ya sure want to make sure that when your combining it KEEP THE DOOR on the combine closed and a good cab filter . If ya don't you'll be itch sooooo bad before the day is done . I am the one that does the combineing so i know where i am comming from.

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