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pafreehling

12-11-2006 21:51:40




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I have started feeding youngstock (<350LB) with great results on primarily oats in feed rations and it seems to reverse a "known" that for years we used primarily corn in all feed mixes. Where is the breaking point for swapping back to primary corn. Currnetly using 300-400 LB for transition period. These are holstein beef. Thanks for any information.




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kyhayman

12-12-2006 13:27:05




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 Re: oats for beef in reply to pafreehling, 12-11-2006 21:51:40  
I feed some to my cows, mainly just to get them to come to the truck (drop a 100# sack every couple of weeks or so of 'home brewed' sweet feed 1/2 oats, 1/2 shelled corn. I get it mixed by the ton for the boarding horses). Cost is the real factor, last year oats cost me $10 a hundred.



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Bud Sather

12-12-2006 10:13:04




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 Re: oats for beef in reply to pafreehling, 12-11-2006 21:51:40  
I feed oats all the time to young stock. I buy calves that weigh about 550 pounds and feed them 3 pounds of oats every day and all of the hay (grass and alfalfa mix) that they want. I feed that until the end of April and then it is only hay until I go to grass. I butcher in the fall straight off of grass. Best flavor of beef you can get in my opinion. I can buy oats from my neighbor for $6 a hundred bulk.
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Glen in TX

12-12-2006 09:53:36




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 Re: oats for beef in reply to pafreehling, 12-11-2006 21:51:40  
I agree with checking with some of the universities and dairy people. More dairies here now and oats had become a popular feed again for hay and silage again. Seed is still costly and with drought past few years it's only a viable thing with irrigation here. Then it's hard to make a good dryland oats crop 1 out of 10 years lately so the irrigation is a must for backup. We use to always put some oats up off marginal ground not good for anything else when we had a wet year but then the weeds came on too so it usually became hay or silage.

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HuskerMedic

12-12-2006 07:00:24




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 Re: oats for beef in reply to pafreehling, 12-11-2006 21:51:40  
Years ago, it wasn't uncommon for guys to put up "oat hay", baling the whole plant with the grain still on it, and use it for feed. I've been away from the cattle business for a few years, so I don't know if the practice continues; I don't see many oats around anymore, so I doubt if it's widespread.

University of Nebraska has a good website where you can ask the experts about any question you might have pertaining to cattle. Check the database; I recall them answering several questions about feeding oats.

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HuskerMedic

12-12-2006 07:01:45




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 Re: oats for beef in reply to HuskerMedic, 12-12-2006 07:00:24  
Link didn't show up; it's beef.unl.edu.



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the tractor vet

12-12-2006 06:35:48




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 Re: oats for beef in reply to pafreehling, 12-11-2006 21:51:40  
Well we mix 900 lbs. of barley 600 lbs of 44% soya 100 lbs of minarl and 2000lbs of ear corn per grinding for the feeders as we now have a steer stuffer feeder and it holds a full grinder mixer load makes it nice and saves a lot of labor this way . Now we can grind a batch of cow feed and piggy feed fill the steer stuffer then grind a batch of piggy feed and fil the feeder for the piggys and not have to bust our donkeys everyday tryen to shovel feed or drag sacks of feed for the pigs and for the broodcows it is just fire up the skidsteer and give them 6 buckets of silage and two round bales and chek the water trough and make sure that the water is running and give it a quick clean out .

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Mn Dave

12-12-2006 05:44:52




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 Re: oats for beef in reply to pafreehling, 12-11-2006 21:51:40  
I would say you could start already slowly mixing in some corn. Ground ear corn would be the best but that might be impossible. The next best thing would be to have the shelled corn run through a roller mill, maybe a third of the ration to start out at and limit feed them at first. I know some Holstein feeders that put their calves on whole shelled corn but not sure on the size. Speaking of oats, I grow about 12 acres each year to satisfy our feeding needs for creep feeding our beef calves. Oats is really a cheap crop to grow and it is not unheard of to get 100 bu. or more per acre and if the price goes up a little from the prices now, it is not a bad cash crop. You get the crop off early and can sit back and take it easy----- ----yeah right.

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low budget

12-12-2006 05:12:27




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 Re: oats for beef in reply to pafreehling, 12-11-2006 21:51:40  
Grew a bunch one year and kept them to feed replacement dairy heifers. Great part was no grinding is necessary.



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JoeBob/in

12-12-2006 05:05:54




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 Re: oats for beef in reply to pafreehling, 12-11-2006 21:51:40  
You should try barley if it is available. In our feeder cattle it really makes 'em grow and more tender. I think the mix is about 50/50 with corn.



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JMS/MN

12-12-2006 09:24:43




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 Re: oats for beef in reply to JoeBob/in, 12-12-2006 05:05:54  
Barley has 92% of the feed value of corn, and works well as a replacement. When low on corn in a corn/protein pellet ration for dairy steers, I've gone to 100% barley- but the switch to 100% and back to corn has to be gradual, over several weeks time. This was for steers on a low roughage diet, intended to finish out 11-1200 lbs at about 13-14 months of age.



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ktheo1

12-12-2006 03:06:05




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 Re: oats for beef in reply to pafreehling, 12-11-2006 21:51:40  
I will agree that oats are good feed. They get rather pricey here in central Illinois as no one grows them any more and what are grownthe horse people snap up .A friend who has horses is paying $4.00 to $4.50 a bu.Unless you intend to feed all you grow or have lots of storage, it is hard to find a grain elevator that will take them.



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Bill(Wis)

12-11-2006 22:21:22




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 Re: oats for beef in reply to pafreehling, 12-11-2006 21:51:40  
You might have some luck trying University websites. We raised both holstein beef and replacement cows and didn't start feeding corn in the mix until about one year old. We really had good luck with oats while they were in the growing stage. Even when we started to finish off the beef, we still kept oats in the mix.



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