OT - Sandpoint well in barn or outside barn?

SO question is should I put the shallow well inside the barn or outside the barn? I know the water table is not very far down. The neighbor in front of me has spring fed pond at about 20 feet below the floor level of the barn.

People in cold weather states, do you have your frostproof hosebib in the barn or just outside? I am thinking about digging a pit inside the barn to hold the well pump, preasure tank and maybe the hose bib. ANybody have an example of what they are using? The frost line here is about 3 to 4 feet deep.

Any help on putting in a sand point would be appreciated as well.

THere is no love loss between our household and the past three owners of the neighbor property. I maintain a fifty foot buffer of wildlife habitat between their line and my first line of fencing. Yet they are the first to call and complain about my animals. County authorities tell me I am allowed to put my livestock right up to the property line fence. I use very low stocking levels as well.....

Have you ever been to Wisconsin? (I not hidding from anyone) I said where I live before. My farm is doing nothing to hurt anyone. You should have seen what the mega dairy sprayed on Dane County Highway PB just North of Bellville this past week. Heavy spreading of manure on over hundreds of acres ajoining the Sugar River. We are talking thick dark coating over every inch...smelled GREAT!

I see that noone can answer the questions I ask. They just beat up on me because I have livestock that needs water.

Don't you have anything better to do?

The midwest is a dangerous place?
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I like a good challenge so I am waiting a few more weeks to get started on digging the pit by hand. I want the frost to get good and deep before I get out the pickaxe. If the clay and limestone was enough work the frost will really get me in shape or kill me.

I wonder how much it cost to have a small backhoe do the work?

Yes, I worry about manure run off into neighbor's pond. Luckly so far the owners there have never expressed an interest in raising trout (which is what I would do if it were mine). But not worried about contaminating the ground water at my place which is uphill. My house well is deep not shallow.

Trenching is difficult here. There is about 3 to 8 inches of "topsoil" then a foot thick layer of limestone, then about five feet of clay/limestone and then bedrock limestone. I know this because the barn building pad was cut into the hillside. Half the barn is on undisturbed soil and half is on fill. I have about about an eight foot tall embankment (which should be turn into a retaining wall some day when I can afford to build one eight by hundred feet). When I go to make the well I will try to place it as close the valley point of cut versus fill on the uphill side of the barn. I have my own "private" valley that cuts across the property which spreads out just below the barn. If I can tap into that valley, I think I will hit the spring that feeds the neighbor's pond. Might cause his pond to dry up. But not worried too much. That property is like a revolving door. Current owners are looking to sell. Original owner pissed me off big time and I have not recovered.... At least most of the small valleys nearby have seasonal springs.

Again, I need to know why not to put the well inside the barn? More protected, easier to keep from freezing. The only bad thing I can come up with is the drainage. I am leaning toward digging pit inside the barn for well and pump near South wall. Then running pipe under wall to outside to frost-proof hydrant. Maybe second one inside building. Livestock (sheep, pigs, poultry) is mostly kept outside year-round. When inside they are confinded to the EAstside of barn and I will put the well on the Westside, which is the uphill side naturally.

Do you think that there should be some concern about the water being contaminated from livestock, especially if the table is only 20 feet down?

I grew up with livestock, open troughs, and no tank heaters. We would carry some hot water in buckets, but also filled the tanks with a hose - but then we drained the hose immediately after each use and left the hoses out all winter. That might be an option.

The whole purpose of a "frost-free" is to NOT require that the hydrant be inside. I haven't asked my good friend about this, but he built a 4-5" square box by 16" tall (w/ two-piece lid) to insulate one of his hydrants.

Personally, I wouldn't want the mess of having a hydrant / open faucet inside a building.

Can you run a buried line from your current water source to your barn and terminate it with a frost-free hydrant?

Just food for thought,

Nathaniel