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OT 1996 Ford Powerstroke problems

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Jeff Oliver

11-21-2006 15:09:04




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I know if someone here can't answer this someone will at least point me in the right direction.

We have a 96 powerstroke that no matter if it is cold or hot outside won't run good until you have gone about 2-4 miles down the road. It won''t get above about 1800 RPM but then things kick in and it runs fine. I believe the wastegate? on the turbo is staying open until it warms up or something. Carried it to a Ford diesel mechanic and he put it on the machine and said everything checks out ok. I read that there is something that doesn't let the oil into the turbo or something until it warms up and I would go for that in the winter but this truck soes this when it is like 100F here.

If it is the watsegate where is it and what can be done? Is it something simple like it is binding and needs oil or something? Never messed with a turbo so I have no clue what to look for.

This makes 2 of thse we have had that did this. The Dodges we have don't do it at all no matter how cold it gets.

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Mike Veen

11-22-2006 20:48:35




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 Re: OT 1996 Ford Powerstroke problems in reply to Jeff Oliver, 11-21-2006 15:09:04  
I have a 1995 powerstroke with a exhaust brake and no warm up valve.They take the valve off to fit the brake.(BD brand of brake).For faster warm ups just leave the brake on for the morning warm up.



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Mydeere

11-22-2006 10:12:55




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 Re: OT 1996 Ford Powerstroke problems in reply to Jeff Oliver, 11-21-2006 15:09:04  
There is a metal line that runs from the exhaust manifold to the sensor. If the sensor is checking out as being o.k., check the metal line. On my truck I found that it was clogged with soot. Once I cleaned it out it seemed to clear out the same problem you mention.



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IBorange in TX

11-21-2006 17:17:36




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 Re: OT 1996 Ford Powerstroke problems in reply to Jeff Oliver, 11-21-2006 15:09:04  
Have found some good info on the site: intellidog.com



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Brokenwrench

11-21-2006 15:19:20




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 Re: OT 1996 Ford Powerstroke problems in reply to Jeff Oliver, 11-21-2006 15:09:04  
I think you`re right on track. If it`s the waste gate it`ll act like a plugged exhaust. Then, when it opens, you here the turbo spool up and off you go. If it`s sticking closed, then temp shouldn`t matter. Just once it pops open then your good to go. I`d check with any diesel mechanic that`s at all familiar with the powerstroke. They"ll be able to point you in the right direction.



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Blue guy

11-21-2006 15:19:04




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 Re: OT 1996 Ford Powerstroke problems in reply to Jeff Oliver, 11-21-2006 15:09:04  
They did not have wastegates until after the 99 models. It sounds like the warm up valve. There is a way of disconnecting it though. Here is a link that will help.



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Jeff Oliver

11-21-2006 16:30:50




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 Re: OT 1996 Ford Powerstroke problems in reply to Blue guy , 11-21-2006 15:19:04  
Do you have a direct link to the info? I went ot the site and registered and did a search but so far nothing. I did find where you can make it in to a brake of some sort which might be kind a neat



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Brokenwrench

11-21-2006 15:20:54




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 Re: OT 1996 Ford Powerstroke problems in reply to Blue guy , 11-21-2006 15:19:04  
You`re right on, after I posted, I realized I was refering to the warm up valve.



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Jeff Oliver

11-21-2006 16:02:22




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 Re: OT 1996 Ford Powerstroke problems in reply to Brokenwrench, 11-21-2006 15:20:54  
ok thanks guys, I wasn't sure what it was called but I knew what it did. I'll check that site and see what it says. If i let it warm up a few minutes before driving it shouldn't hurt the turbo with the warm up valve disconnected will it?



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Blue guy

11-21-2006 18:50:37




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 Re: OT 1996 Ford Powerstroke problems in reply to Jeff Oliver, 11-21-2006 16:02:22  
It should not hurt a thing being disconnected. I would try it and see if that is what is causing your trouble. Only downside from being unplugged is slower warm ups.



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John M

11-21-2006 16:57:49




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 Re: OT 1996 Ford Powerstroke problems in reply to Jeff Oliver, 11-21-2006 16:02:22  
Its called an Exaust Back Pressure Valve, EBPV for short. If its doing it when its warm utside as well as cold, you proably have a bad sensor for the EBPV. It shouldnt close when its warm outside.



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Jeff Oliver

11-21-2006 17:31:43




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 Re: OT 1996 Ford Powerstroke problems in reply to John M, 11-21-2006 16:57:49  
thats what i thought but the mechanic at the dealership says he put it on the machine and the sensor checks fine. I think it still takes too long to open when it is cold as I would think 20 minutes of warmup should be plenty. I found the link on how to take the guts out of it but from looking at the pictures I'm thinking you might be able to take it apart and clean up up and lubricate the valve to where it will work right.

I'll research more.... :)

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John M

11-22-2006 03:29:15




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 Re: OT 1996 Ford Powerstroke problems in reply to Jeff Oliver, 11-21-2006 17:31:43  
Was the engine cold when he checked it? If it was warm then the sensor will be "on" to open the EBPV.I still think thats the problem.



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