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OT: Winter Tires for a truck

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farmallman

11-21-2006 13:16:06




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How many of you guys have winter tires for your truck? and how do you like them/how well do they preform?
I have recently mooved to a more wintery area of the province and have been told i should get winter tires. So I go and look at them...4$80.00 plus tax...
i dont know if i want to put that into them...but on the other hand, i think I should

What's your opinion?




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dan67

11-22-2006 21:24:39




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to farmallman, 11-21-2006 13:16:06  
I run kumo all seasons in the good weather but put on Les shwab studded snows on all four when winter hits like know. have f250 pwr stroke 4x4 and carry chains year round also carry chains for big horse trailer I pull year round



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buickanddeere

11-22-2006 18:49:13




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to farmallman, 11-21-2006 13:16:06  
All season tires are false hope. The rubber compound get hard at freezing temps and wet/ice traction goes away. Fair in deep snow. Real snow tires in winter or take your chances killing some innocent peopleon the highway. I can't imagine an $80.00 tires being able to offer much of anything. We use Michelin Artic Aplines on the light vehicles and Michelin 10 ply Mud & Snow on the truck.

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Hal/WA

11-22-2006 18:31:44




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to farmallman, 11-21-2006 13:16:06  
I haven't put snows on my 84 Ford F250 4x4, mostly because I seldom use it in the winter very much, and when I have, I have found that it will go very well in most conditions with the all seasons tires it has.

But I put studded snow tires on all of my cars. Not so much so they will GO in slick conditions, but so they will STOP when I need them to. The front wheel drive cars can get by with all season tires pretty well most times, but don't stop worth beans on wet ice. And I tried all season tires on a rear wheel drive car, and ended up buying studs within a month of snow coming.

Now I have heard that great improvements have been made on certain all season tires, and I have not tried any of those fairly expensive tires. But I notice that all the law enforcement agencies around here use studs on their patrol cars. Why? Easy, less accidents. I live in a state where the majority of the population lives on the side of a mountain range where they very seldom have a need for snow tires. Every year there is talk of outlawing studded tires because they damage the road surface. Obviously, metal studs can and do cause some road damage. But since I live on the side of the state where often our temperatures are at or below 32 degrees during the winter, I hope that studs will continue to be legal. I believe they are needed and useful safety device that needs to be in use when you suddenly need them.

Recently we took a trip to Seattle. Over Snoqualmie Pass, it took us about 2 hours to go 3 miles. Why? Because people were trying to drive without good traction. Finally there was a sign that said that chains were required, and we found that the traffic jam was mostly because people were pulled over, trying to put on chains or cable chains. We didn't have any chains, but with our studded snowtires, we had no trouble going or stopping. I did worry about getting stopped for not having chains, but neither did lots of others.

On the way back, it was snowing heavily and lots of cars were having trouble. Near the summit, a semi that had not chained up had jackknifed. We were able to drive right by and stay out of everyone's way. Again, no trouble going or stopping. A lot slower than we usually travel, but much faster than our trip Westbound the day before.

If I was using a 2 wheel drive pickup every day, I would definitely get studs all the way around and also would put a bunch of weight in the back. I would also carry chains and plan to use them sometimes. On a 4x4, if I was planning to use it every day, I would get studs on it for the increased stopping ability.

As long as I can legally run them, I will put studs on anything I plan to use much. I would pay a bunch more for a studded tire "license", if need be, but I sure hope they don't take those useful safety devices away from me and many of the other drivers in Eastern Washington. I think they are worth it, at least for our usual winter driving conditions with the temperature right around freezing. Good luck!

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burnetma

11-22-2006 17:37:54




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to farmallman, 11-21-2006 13:16:06  
I run Cooper Mud & Snow "E" load range year round on my F250 HD. I only get 40,000 miles out of them, but they are great in the snow and OK in the mud. Just bought a set for $480 including mounting,balancing and tax. This truck came with Firestone (absolute junk! 3 of 4 had sidewall failures in <10k miles). The replacement set were the venerable BF Goodrich AT KO (excellent tire, highly recommend but expensive), next set were Michelin AXT (Good sidewall, poor tread stability, I would not recommend), back to the BF Goodrich and finally 3 sets of the Cooper (1 studded). As long as the quality doesn"t degrade, I will continue to buy Cooper"s. Wife"s Trailblazer also got a set of 4!

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big jt

11-22-2006 08:56:54




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to farmallman, 11-21-2006 13:16:06  
I run a 2 wheel drive with posi in my area. Run a real aggressive Kumho mud and snow. Have two sets One with studs and one without. Iowa won't let me run studs from April Fools to Halloween.

$320 will seem pretty cheap when you are skidding down the highway.

Just do it.

jt



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Ludwig

11-22-2006 08:44:37




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to farmallman, 11-21-2006 13:16:06  
I mostly drive a car because I commute over 100 miles a day but heres my $0.02.
I got my first snow tires 2 winters ago on my old Mercedes. I got them because the all-seasons turned bad that winter and in the first storm of the year I couldn't get anywhere.
With snows that car was great in snow and on ice and even in the mud. On wet pavement though stopping wasn't so great, that tends to be the tradeoff with snows.
They were louder than all-seasons and didn't wear well compared to all seasons. Although I hadn't worn them out in 25,000 miles when I sold the car.

Would I do it again? You bet, I'm about to get another set of wheels for my new car and will get snows on the second set to make it easy to rotate the all-seasons back in in the spring.

You know what really makes for a good snow vehicle though? Low horsepower...
I know, sounds crazy right? My old diesel Mercedes has only about 72hp (thats what it had new anyway) and its just terrific in the snow. My Dodge Dakota had 200+hp new and in 2wd even with snows and 300# in the back its a handful, in 4wd its not bad but my GMC Jimmy S15 w/2.8l (about 95hp) was a whole lot better even with all-seasons and no weight in the back.

The horsepower race makes for vehicles that tow good and are alot of fun but for actually getting somewhere when its snowing or for going down a field road and trying not to tear it to pieces a smaller engine is better, for me anyway.

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James2

11-22-2006 08:09:21




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to farmallman, 11-21-2006 13:16:06  
Although I don't do much off-hard-road winter driving, I did buy a pair and it was money well spent. If it really gets bad you can add several sand tubes and you are all set. Only had to put the sand tubes in once, and really should have stayed home. Bought rims from junk yard for $30/pair. Only need to run snow tires for a little more than three months in this area, plan to put them on this weekend.

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Brian in NY

11-22-2006 06:15:27




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to farmallman, 11-21-2006 13:16:06  
Spend the money on the tires, in my opinion.

How much is your insurance deductible?

If you go off into a ditch or whack a tree you'll have your deductible plus a premium increase to deal with, and still won't have the tires.

Plus, any time you run winters, you are saving life on your summer tires, so they really are money well spent if you ask me.



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egon

11-22-2006 04:56:35




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to farmallman, 11-21-2006 13:16:06  
I am a rural mail carrier and have not missed a day for the last 12 years. I have four wheel drive but it is useless without snow tires and weight. Use old tire tubes filled with gravel for weight, they don"t slide around and in a pinch I can use the gravel.Can go on anything but stopping on ice is the problem so I keep a pair of studded tires to put on the front if it"s icey.



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Don-Wi

11-21-2006 23:56:07




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to farmallman, 11-21-2006 13:16:06  
I go with mud/snow tires on my 2wd F150, and they help alot. I had a set of Sport Kings' on it last, and while they're not the most agressive tire they still did pretty good until they were 1/2 gone.

Once I get a new truck I'll probably have 2 sets of mud & snow's, one for Winter and another for Summer. Newer ones being for Winter.



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kyhayman

11-21-2006 16:53:45




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to farmallman, 11-21-2006 13:16:06  
4 @ 80 = $320 easily worth that to be able to travel when you need want to, and worth way more than that if you travel and should have had them, and didnt.



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farmallman

11-21-2006 19:07:54




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to kyhayman, 11-21-2006 16:53:45  
Sorry, that should of read $480.00 for all four of them, plus tax.



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Steven@AZ

11-21-2006 15:15:30




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to farmallman, 11-21-2006 13:16:06  
The last winter I spent in ND I put a set of studded snow tires on my 2wd truck and 300 lbs of sandbags in the back. I never once got stuck, and I could stop quickly if needed. I got through a lot of snow that would have required 4x4 with all season tires.

Cheap steel wheels from a wrecking yard and studded snow tires are a life saver. And remember, it isn't the getting going that matters, it's the STOPPING!

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KRUSS

11-21-2006 14:39:56




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to farmallman, 11-21-2006 13:16:06  
Around here, everybody I know of runs M/S (mud/snow) tires all year round. I buy the deepest tread I can get. Don't like shovelling snow, although currently we have none, which is unusual.



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MN Bob

11-21-2006 14:19:00




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to farmallman, 11-21-2006 13:16:06  
What is the down side of snow tires? Years ago out west we had walnut shell in the re-tread snow tires. Just read an article that they are coming back in some brands. If studs are leagal they are better in most situations. One accident prevented is worth 2 if not 4 tires. Wheels from a wrecking yard would be good too. Bob



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Jack-Iowa

11-21-2006 14:14:47




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to farmallman, 11-21-2006 13:16:06  
When the time comes here I dump about 500lbs of whatever I have laying around into the bed of the truck.About best tires I can buy.



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Stumpalump

11-21-2006 13:35:42




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 Re: OT: Winter Tires for a truck in reply to farmallman, 11-21-2006 13:16:06  
Tires are cheap life insurance.



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