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Glow Plug Problem 1979 IH 384 / BD154 Diesel

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Ted Van Ryn

10-18-2006 14:51:32




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I had the engine rebuilt but now have a problem witht he glow plugs. I have burnt out two resistors that mount on the dash. I have hooked up the glow plugs witht he wires attached outside the engine and they work properly, but once installed in the engine they short out causing the resisor to burn out on the dash. I am wondering if the pre combustion sleeves could be out of position just enough to short out the glow plugs. Has anyone run into this before or have any suggesitons. Thanks Ted

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bob farrell

10-19-2006 05:06:11




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 Re: Glow Plug Problem 1979 IH 384 / BD154 Diesel in reply to Ted Van Ryn, 10-18-2006 14:51:32  
I can't offer any suggestions for your problem except as others have said - probably insulators. I have a IH-424D that the glow plugs have gone south on. Where do recommened buying the plugs and resistor from???? thanks, bob farrell



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geok

10-18-2006 20:12:45




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 Re: Glow Plug Problem 1979 IH 384 / BD154 Diesel in reply to Ted Van Ryn, 10-18-2006 14:51:32  
Are you glow plugs hooked up correctly? Make sure your insulator washer are not letting the jumper connectors touch the connecting wire or each other. This type of system, if one is bad, none will work.



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jdemaris

10-18-2006 20:04:12




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 Insulators on wrong? in reply to Ted Van Ryn, 10-18-2006 14:51:32  
You sure the insulators are all in place and in the correct order?
I'm not familiar with the glow-plug system on later B engines used in IHs like your's - but I've got a few British/Indian IHs from the early 60s - a B275 with the BD-144, and a B414 with the BD-154. They both use slow-heating glow plugs all hooked in series along with a resistor in the dashboard. The resistor in the dashboard has the same heating value and resistance as the glow plugs - i.e. they all heat up at the same rate and speed. Thus - the dash-mounted resistor also works as a glow indicator. #1 It's lets you know when all is hot enough for starting - and #2 when it's getting too hot. And - since all is hooked in series, if one plug goes bad - none will work.
If your tractor is hooked the same way - you should not be able to burn out the resistor - unless one or more of the glow-plugs has too little resistance. So, yes - in that case a short would do it. But considering how flimsy those glow-plugs are - it seems unlikely that you could cause that kind of short on the element end (in the precombustion chamber). At least with the plugs I've used - the elements burn off pretty easy. I'd more likely suspect you got some of the stacks of insulators on the glow-plugs either missing or arranged in the wrong order. It's kind of a complicated arrangement of insulator bushings and copper leads. The glow-plugs used for my tractors - and other stuff they are supposed to fit are: Champion CH28 (155). Bosch # : 0250001001 or 0250001010
Lucas: DS104 Beru: 214GK Same plug used in: MERCEDES (Series) 17ODa. 17ODb, 17ODS, 17OS-D,
180D,18ODb D5, 190D, 19ODb 81
INTERNATIONAL BDI44, BD154, B250, B27, B414, 424,
444, 2424. 2444, 3414, 3444, 364, 384, TD-5, 500,
Series, 7000
MERCEDES-BENZ Unimog: 411A, 8, C OM Series 83-
MEVOSA OM636
SEAT 132D, OM636
THERMO-KING NWD, UWD(Series)

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