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coflyboy

10-18-2006 13:33:23

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Shop security seems to be one of the concerns often raised on this forum. The most popular defenses seems to be to secure the premises to keep the bad guys out or put up cameras etc.
Another way is to understand the concerns of the bad guy. He most fears getting caught.

I've installed quite inexpensive, very bright disco type, battery backed-up, lighting both inside and outside of buildings. This coupled with ear splitting sirens at the points where the bad guy is likely to enter is very effective. A solar charger can power the system.

'Harden' the wiring and devices so they can not easily be defeated. Tell NO ONE about the system's workings. Be sure to install a timer to shut the system off after a period of time should it inadvertently activate.

This also keeps the suits with briefcases out of the picture especially if warning signs are posted.

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thejdman01

10-19-2006 06:32:41

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Re: shop security-revisited in reply to coflyboy, 10-18-2006 13:33:23

I assume everyitngs on a motion sensor, so how do you make that work well? Seems if i angle mine down enough wehre itdetects me itll detect owls, squirrls, deer etc and it is always goin g off. If i raise the sensor off it doesnt seem to work.

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coflyboy

10-19-2006 16:35:49

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Re: shop security-revisited in reply to thejdman01, 10-19-2006 06:32:41

You raise very good points. I have little confidence in motion detectors for this application. Deer, owls, etc, however, do not go through doors, so I like good, hidden if possible, murcury switches on doors. Even a half door between rooms can have a switch installed. Anticipate where a bad guy will go and try to 'wire' those accesses. Even a large tool box can be wired. Electric eyes are useful also but do fail.

It's difficult to catch someone outside a building excpt with monitored cameras. To many chances for false alarm.

It's also dificult to keep emotion out of the picture and be objective when protecting property. Most burglars are smart enough to attack when no one is looking.

Hopfully, well worded and placed signs will keep most bad guys out, especially if they see the alarm system tested ocasionally.

Always put timers on the alarm so if it does go off you won't keep neighbors up all night.

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JiminIA

10-19-2006 05:58:31

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Re: shop security-revisited in reply to coflyboy, 10-18-2006 13:33:23

"Keep your friends close and enimies closer" A number of years ago I had some guns and tools stolen and it turned out to be a " friend" who I had known since elementry school. We found the guns in the creek behind the barn. Still have not recieved anything back. Just be careful of who knows what you have in the shop....Jim

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Oldmax

10-19-2006 04:53:31

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Re: shop security-revisited in reply to coflyboy, 10-18-2006 13:33:23

One of my friends Cought A guy Stealling out of his Car in the driveway chased him down Give Him a good Beating then pulled him by the feet about 500 Ft down a Railroad track with his head bouncing off ties then told him to set while he went in house to call 911 . when he came out he was still setting where he left him . When law got there they asked what happend to him Friend told law he fell while he was chasing him . The
Officer didn't want to know details . They just hauled him off .

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Michael Soldan

10-18-2006 13:48:23

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Re: shop security-revisited in reply to coflyboy, 10-18-2006 13:33:23

Coflyboy, I agree, anything that attracts attention will defray a burglar's interest. A friend of mine caught a guy in his garage one night and he beat the guy to a pulp, dragged him out the lane and threw him in the ditch, told him he knew who he was and where he lived and if the guy went to the police he would come after him, and if he was ever broken into again he would come after him...never a word after that night and never a break in.. the buglar didn't go to work for over a week, apparently his ribs were sore and one eye was swelled shut. More guys should take a crowbar to burglars. here in Ontario a break in artist usually gets probation and is right back at it the next night..the law here doesn't work. Most police officers will come and take a statement from you if you are burglered and that's just for insurance companies, after that they don't do a damned thing. I'd suggest putting a knife in the guys hand after you have beat him to a pulp, get his prints on it and you're home free...you're damned right I would..some sob comes in the dark of night to steal what I have worked hard for all my life...crowbar accross the side of the head and dumped on a road side..... .

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Midwest redneck

10-18-2006 18:51:05

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Re: shop security-revisited in reply to Michael Soldan, 10-18-2006 13:48:23

It is too bad that you folks from Canada cant own firearms to shoot the bad guys.

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Tim...Ok

10-18-2006 14:12:09

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Re: shop security-revisited in reply to Michael Soldan, 10-18-2006 13:48:23

Politically correct,not hardly..but if more people had Michael's approach,you'd see a dramatic drop in the crime rates.. I had a guy I knew stole every gun I had a few years ago,some cash,basically everything in the house of value that he could carry off easy,then left town and ran to kansas.. if I ever run into him again,it'll make the newpaper,I guarantee it..

Tim

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BIgMarv1085

10-19-2006 05:02:01

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Re: shop security-revisited in reply to Tim...Ok, 10-18-2006 14:12:09

Buddy of mine caught two teenagers breaking into his barn. He tie wrapped their hands together, got his brother and took them to the middle of a large project housing, made them take off there pants, blew the horn for a solid minute and left them. Went too a pay phone and called the police. Read in the paper a day later where they caught 2 teens streaking.

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