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Oliver in SC

10-15-2006 04:42:39




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I went to a local tire store yesterday to have my rear tractor tires and tubes replaced. The young fella assigned to he job did great until he came to the part of filling the tires with water. He used an adapter to pour a half gallon of anti-freeze in each valve stem. Now comes the fun part. He hooked the water hose to the adapter and let the water run in for several minutes until the beads popped in place and then let the water run in some more. When he turned the water off and unscrewed the adapter, he had water spraying out while he put the stem needle in. I'm talking about a lot of water. Never checked the pressure with a gauge. I'm sitting on the tailgate of the truck watching this. We loaded the tires in the truck with a chain hoist. When I got home and unloaded the tires, I noticed that one was a lot heavier than the other. I put them on the tractor and while it was still jacked up, I rolled the tires so the valve stems were at the top and checked the pressures. One tire had 8 psi and the other 10. Got a lot of water in the gauge while doing this. Added air to bring the pressure to 16 in both tires. Now I'm no expert in filling tires, but having one tire much heavier than the other is not a good thing, right? In any case, the fella tackled the job without a care in the world so I gotta admire his enthusiasm.

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Oliver in SC

10-15-2006 07:00:43




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 Re: New Tires Tubes in reply to Oliver in SC, 10-15-2006 04:42:39  
Very good advice. Thanks. The tires are 9.5 x 24. It does freeze here, usually gets around 25 or so at night in the winter months. I knew something wasn't right when he layed the tire flat and set the beads with the water hose, then spewed water everywhere. I'll jack the tractor back up and release the water with the stem at the top. He used full strength NAPA anti-freeze but I know a lot of it was lost. I'll buy some more and add it to the tires. I'll get the adapter and buy a new gauge as suggested. I went to school years ago with the owner of the tire store and have always got good service and prices for car and truck tires. I'm going to have an aside with him friend-to-friend about this tomorrow. Plenty of other stores around if he doesn't care about this. Thanks again for the great advice.

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John M

10-15-2006 07:17:54




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 Re: New Tires Tubes in reply to Oliver in SC, 10-15-2006 07:00:43  
Where was this at? I want to make sure I avoid this place.



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JD9295

10-15-2006 06:15:14




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 Re: New Tires Tubes in reply to Oliver in SC, 10-15-2006 04:42:39  
sounds like you need to start using a new tire man. that boy apparently didntknow/dontcare/never been shown.
first he should have set the bead with air, bled it off then pumped water in and should have been keeping track of the water he put in. 1/2 gallon antifreeze? you will be back buying new tires if it freezes there like it does here.
and he should have been smart enough to have the valve stem on top, then there should not have been any water blow out.
jsut my opinion, but i wouldnt go back there

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Leland

10-15-2006 05:56:48




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 Re: New Tires Tubes in reply to Oliver in SC, 10-15-2006 04:42:39  
What size tires did you buy ? a 1/2 gal of a-freeze sounds a little shy of whats needed if you live where it freezes . And it would not be that hard to add more AF if needed by jacking up and bringing valves to top ,and FYI you need to go to the parts store and buy a tire gauge made for fluid filled tires the others don't work to well after being filled with water .



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RAB

10-15-2006 05:47:43




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 Re: New Tires Tubes in reply to Oliver in SC, 10-15-2006 04:42:39  
You said: "pour a half gallon of anti-freeze in each valve stem."

I hope you are not in a freeze situation during the winter. Probably less than that in each tyre by now!!
That should give you protection to about -1 degrees Celsius! Or is US antifreeze better than UK stuff? Or is this a real baby tractor you have there?
RAB



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Mike M

10-15-2006 05:44:08




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 Re: New Tires Tubes in reply to Oliver in SC, 10-15-2006 04:42:39  
Only half a gallon of antifreeze ????? ????? ???

Sounds like it will freeze ? How big of tires ?



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champspa

10-15-2006 05:42:44




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 Re: New Tires Tubes in reply to Oliver in SC, 10-15-2006 04:42:39  
jack the tire of the ground and turn the valve to the top let the air and water out till dry and refill with air .



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Nebraska Cowman

10-15-2006 05:16:05




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 Re: New Tires Tubes in reply to Oliver in SC, 10-15-2006 04:42:39  
I was always taught to seat the bead first with air. And with the air water adapters we used the core was reinserted before removing the adpter so no loss there. Sounds like you had a poorly trained man with makeshift tools. I wouldn't go back. If your tires are unequal you might let some out of one. They should be about 2/3 full. If water still comes out with stem at the top that sounds a little overfull.

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Phil Lowery

10-24-2006 06:10:29




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 Re: New Tires Tubes in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 10-15-2006 05:16:05  
I am looking for a good adapter to fill my tires. You mentioned that with the type you have, the valve core is reinserted. Can you send me some info on where to buy one.

Thanks
Phil Lowery



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iowa_tire_guy

10-15-2006 05:44:59




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 Re: New Tires Tubes in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 10-15-2006 05:16:05  
I agree with cowman, if he had the proper tools and training there should be only a few drops of fluid escape. And he should have seated the beads with air if for no other reason to make sure there wasn"t a hole in the tube.



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