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Hitch on a trailor.

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old

10-04-2006 18:12:26




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I'm needing to use my trailor to haul a boucnh of stuff but alos have some stuff that will not fit on the trailor. What I'm thinking about is makeing a hitch on the back of the trailor so I could hook up a hay rake or other lighter type equipment and save my self a trip or 2 doing so. Has any body even done that. Yesa in my state its legal to do double and triples so I know its legal and yes I have a Class A CDL with double/triples on it. Thanks

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T_Bone

10-05-2006 07:54:45




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 Re: Hitch on a trailor. in reply to old, 10-04-2006 18:12:26  
Hi Rich,

I did a TT with a VW Rabbit behind that on a tow bar for 1250 miles. It wasn"t fun as the load first reacted bad at 25mph then again at 45mph. I strongly urge you to work up your road speed in 5mph incriments until the load proves it"s self. At 50mph I had to chase the car as the sway was terrible. There was no tongue weight since it was a tow bar!

I really think the VW narrow track width VS the TT wide width was the cause of the sway induced by the road crown. The higher the road crown the slower I had to pull. About 40mph for 1200miles.

I talked with a bunch of guys fishing that were pulling 22ft boats behind there 5th wheel at 60mph without any problems. Most had the same axle width on the boat trailer as the 5"er had.

T_Bone

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Luke S

10-05-2006 07:13:24




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 Re: Hitch on a trailor. in reply to old, 10-04-2006 18:12:26  
Go ahead, and do it. For lighter stuff like a rake it'll work fine. Back when we used to be in the Featherlite trailer business I would pull a 24' gooseneck stock trailer behind a one ton dually, we had a bolt on reciever hitch that went on the 24' trailer. Then we had a tandem axle dolly type trailer that hooked to the back of the first trailer, it had a stationary gooseneck hitch mounted on it. I would then hook a 20' or 24' gooseneck on to the dolly and down the road I'd go. Went all over the midwest like that with no problems.

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mjbrown

10-05-2006 06:44:18




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 Re: Hitch on a trailor. in reply to old, 10-04-2006 18:12:26  
Let us know how it backs up.;-)



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Ohio Mike

10-05-2006 06:08:49




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 Re: Hitch on a trailor. in reply to old, 10-04-2006 18:12:26  
I can't say what's legal and I have'nt pulled anything behind my trailers so can't help you there. But not far from me in about any direction seems like there is someone selling new trailers and I've noticed on some of the trailers they have a hitch on the rear just like you would put under a pickup. Only seen this on goosenecks. Don't know if I was any help or not, good luck.



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Tim...Ok

10-05-2006 04:35:10




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 Re: Hitch on a trailor. in reply to old, 10-04-2006 18:12:26  
Rich, don't know about Missouri,here across the state line from ya,like Keith said,the front trailer has to be a fifth wheel,not sure if a gooseneck would be legal or not.. we do what your talking about all the time,but just on the backroads for usually short distances.. we've put hitches on the back of 4 or 5 of our trailers..

Tim



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Keith-OR

10-04-2006 20:23:36




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 Re: Hitch on a trailor. in reply to old, 10-04-2006 18:12:26  
Kinda agree with ya Rich, in our state triples are legal, But they are using fithwheel configuration-----Only one ball is legal here. If your first trailer is hooked up using a "true fifthwheel" then, you can attach something else behind with ball hookup...

Keith



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nballen

10-05-2006 06:59:14




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 Re: Hitch on a trailor. in reply to Keith-OR, 10-04-2006 20:23:36  
Hey Keith,
I grew up in Eastern Oregon, and was under the impression that a "train" was only legal if the tow vehicle was CDL-rated (over 26k GVWR). I.E. you can't pull tandems with a pickup.

Is that still the case?

Nathaniel



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old

10-04-2006 21:29:41




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 Re: Hitch on a trailor. in reply to Keith-OR, 10-04-2006 20:23:36  
Keith the trailor is a ball type but I also know in my area they pul a lot of double boat trailors and they are also ball type so I figure it has to be legal or it won't be done.



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Keith-OR

10-04-2006 22:17:03




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 Re: Hitch on a trailor. in reply to old, 10-04-2006 21:29:41  
Old, you get that winch going?? It sure makes loading easy when loading non running tractors and other equipment.

Keith



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old

10-05-2006 06:59:47




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 Re: Hitch on a trailor. in reply to Keith-OR, 10-04-2006 22:17:03  
Thats a yes, no, and sort of. I have it figured out as ar as makeing it work but haven't got the parts to fix it yet.



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paul

10-04-2006 19:13:11




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 Re: Hitch on a trailor. in reply to old, 10-04-2006 18:12:26  
My state farmers can use 2 hitch pins if going under 30mph.

Only exception is the weekenders towing a camper with a boat behind to go up north to the cabin.

Anyhow, kinda depends on your trailer configuration. If the axles are about centered & your trailer is long, there will be a lot of swing when you turn, will make the 3rd item track around quite a bit. Corners & so would be interesting in some cases.

As well, putting a lot of tounge wieght on the back of the trailer will unload the hitch of it, making the trailer want to sway - sometimes a lot.

Just thinks to think about.

--->Paul

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old

10-04-2006 19:28:42




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 Re: Hitch on a trailor. in reply to paul, 10-04-2006 19:13:11  
Well if I can figure out how to set up a hitch that can be put on and off easy. I'll also load the trailor heavy up front to off set the weight of what is on back so I will sort of off set the heavy tale weight to match. This is a 16 foot trailor like what is used to haul cars etc. So yes the axles are center almost

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shinnery

10-04-2006 19:09:33




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 Re: Hitch on a trailor. in reply to old, 10-04-2006 18:12:26  
I believe in Texas you need to have brakes on at least the first trailer. Own personal use, CDL not needed.



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old

10-04-2006 19:31:04




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 Re: Hitch on a trailor. in reply to shinnery, 10-04-2006 19:09:33  
Got that the trailor has one brake axle. Plus I'm only pulling about 15-20 miles I jsut want to speed moveing thing up some. I'm only going to pull light things like a rake. We have 2 balers to pull but I figure they are to heavy to pull that way



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BigMarv1085

10-04-2006 18:36:13




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 Re: Hitch on a trailor. in reply to old, 10-04-2006 18:12:26  
Hey Old, I saw a guy pulling a car trailer with a tractor, harrow, and spin spreader on it. He had welded a drawbar on the back of the trailer and was pulling smaller trailer hooked to it with a stack of seed and fertilizer and a big four wheeler on it.



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Allan In NE

10-04-2006 18:16:36




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 Re: Hitch on a trailor. in reply to old, 10-04-2006 18:12:26  
Yes Sir,

I see 'em draggin' triples all the time in these parts.

Allan



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