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Sam (MO)

10-02-2006 10:21:16




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Ok guys, I picked up one of those Allen red machines the other day. It's a IH 454 gas and the tire went flat looks to be a bad valve stem. Now the question should I dismount the tire and clean up this rim (it's showing sign of rust) and how do I get the calcuim out and what should I treat the wheel with.dang thing must weight 2 hundred pounds. Thanks sam




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Brian Duffney

10-03-2006 06:13:42




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 Re: calcuim in wheels in reply to Sam (MO), 10-02-2006 10:21:16  
Try Rim Gaurd. Same weight as calcium, but no rust problems. Thier web page has many positive testimonials about the product. I have been debating about using it my self.
just my two cents though,
Brian

http://www.rimguard.biz/



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Don-Wi

10-02-2006 22:29:34




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 Re: calcuim in wheels in reply to Sam (MO), 10-02-2006 10:21:16  
I'm with Allan. Hire it done by the professionals, they'll pump it out and break down the tire, then they can come back leter if you wanna clean it up. Our tire guy will wire brush the rim if it's bad enough, but we've never had too much troubles with calcium in our tires, been runnning it in everything for years.

If it's just the stem, you can replace that without even removing the weight form the tire. Just put the stem on top, and make sure you've got the new replacement stem ready. remove the old and stick in the new. I reccomend rubber gloves to keep any from getting on your hands, and safety glasses would be a good idea just in case. I did both tires on our Oliver 1855 this spring, just the stems. Niether one had water above the stem so I could swap them out without loosing a drop, only some air. There was still a small amount of spray so the gloves are always a good idea.

The only one that we don't have it in is my Oliver 1600. I rebuilt it, and it doesn't pull a plow anymore so there really isn't a reason to use it anymore, plus we pull the planter's with it so lighter is better.

I disagree with people who are worried about calcium in the tires. If it were realy that bad, and the cons out weighed the good, it wouldn't be used any more. As long as the tubes aren't leaking, the rims will be fine. if they are and the rims become shot, its the owner/operator's fault, not the CaCl's. It's also dangerous to run one dry and the other empty, and I wouldn't even consider running one side loaded and the other side weighted with cast. It ain't putting the weight in the same spot and can still become a hazard to your life. They do some funny things when improperly loaded, like turning over on the operator.

For your own safety, hire a professional. If you're not doing heavy pulling or don't need the weight, have both tires pumped out. Other wise, have them recover it and pump it back in.


Donovan from Wisconsin

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buickanddeere

10-03-2006 18:38:43




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 Re: calcuim in wheels in reply to Don-Wi, 10-02-2006 22:29:34  
Calcuim Chloride should not be a problem However the number of tractors with ruined rims says otherwise. Get rid of trouble and use Rim Guard or windshield washer fluid. CaCh is only used because it's cheap. And it's what Dad, Grand Dad and Great Grand Dad always put in tires. It's 2006, using CaCh is like building a new house without indoor plumbing.



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R.J.

10-02-2006 20:27:32




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 Re: calcuim in wheels in reply to Sam (MO), 10-02-2006 10:21:16  
After you get rim cleaned up and painted forget the chloride. Use antifreeze no rust worries then.

R.J.



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coflyboy

10-02-2006 18:36:21




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 Re: calcuim in wheels in reply to Sam (MO), 10-02-2006 10:21:16  
I'm not a real experienced pro at this but I couldn't agree more with Allen. Let the tire pros do it. Even if you have to have the tire folks out twice because you need to clean up the rims. I have a friend who has the side of his face caved in because he didn't.



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old

10-02-2006 14:10:18




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 Re: calcuim in wheels in reply to Sam (MO), 10-02-2006 10:21:16  
Sam, drop me an e-mail an I'll send you a page from an owners manual that tell you how to do what your tring to do. Don't feel bad I just got in an M that has fluid in the tires and one rim is about to brake so I'll be pumping the stuff out but I save the stuff for the next tire I might want to fill. Then take you rim with out the tire on it and wash it off good with water, let dry and use a wire brush to clean it up and paint it with a good paint. Also be careful with that tire if you unbolt it from the tractor if it falls on you it will hurt you BTDT

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John A.

10-02-2006 13:21:41




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 Re: calcuim in wheels in reply to Sam (MO), 10-02-2006 10:21:16  
Sam, Drive your tractor out in the gravel drive. So one tire has the valve stem at the bottom. Then jack up the other side and spin that tire to where its valvestem is at the bottom too. Unscrew the valve stem and let the liquid run out on the drive. If the drive is not a good place, then out in the field where you can plow that spot a time or two later.
After the tire go flat, reinstall the valve stem and air them up move this show back up to the barn, or where ever you do tire work.
Now you can call a Tire shop if you want to breakdown the tires. Forget! salvageing the old tubes, Get 2 new ones.
If the rims need brushing and paint then a second trip out by the Tire shop is need a couple of days later to reinstall the tires and new tubes.
I have seen rims brushed and wipeed clean, Then Duct tape the whole or part of a rim to get a guy going again. Hope this helps.
Later,
John A.
PS... Don't forget to wash off the rest of your tractor where any CaCl may have gotton on it.

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Jim.UT

10-02-2006 11:49:46




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 Re: calcuim in wheels in reply to Sam (MO), 10-02-2006 10:21:16  
I'm not familiar with that tractor so I don't know what size rear tires it has, but a calcium filled tire (13.6 - 28) on a Ford 800 will weigh about 500 lbs or more.

I suggest you take Allan's advice!



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Allan In NE

10-02-2006 11:20:53




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 Re: calcuim in wheels in reply to Sam (MO), 10-02-2006 10:21:16  
Sam, I'm serious as a heart attack, here.

Call the tire shop, go have a glass of iced tea and it will all be over in 20 minutes.

Allan



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glennster

10-02-2006 11:14:20




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 Re: calcuim in wheels in reply to Sam (MO), 10-02-2006 10:21:16  
farm and fleet sells the fill adapters for the chloride. if you dont have one you and put air in the tire, have the valve down at its lowest point and unscrew the stem. stick a hose over the stem and try to divert it into a bucket, or drain it on a gravel driveway. the chloride also is used as a gravel binder. scrub the rim quite a few times with hot soapy water, rinse it real good. you can the sandblast or wire brush the wheel clean. prime and paint the inside of the wheel with a good rusty metal paint (rustoleum ect)

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Jimmy King

10-02-2006 10:36:47




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 Re: calcuim in wheels in reply to Sam (MO), 10-02-2006 10:21:16  
If you want to save it you will need a pump, to pump it into a barrow. You will a fitting to screw on the stem, where the little part screws out of the big part to pump it out and back in. If you don"t want to save it find a place with no grass screw the stem apart and let it run then clean up the rim good.



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