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Getting that itch again...

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Don-Wi

09-22-2006 22:46:05




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Lately I've been thinking about our 1755 that's been sitting in the weeds.... I really wanna start tearing into it now that my 1600 has almost 100 hours on the rebuild.... Only trouble is I need a better work place so I can do some of the engine work myself, and my dad just lost his job so our shed might be put on hold again for a little while....

My brother and I have been thinking about just taking out a loan ourselves to put the shed up so we can have a nice shop to work in. He's already got an in-floor hoist sitting in the lean-to on the barn for a few years now, he's got a nice big air compressor, and we've really been planning, but this sucks!!!! I'm just trying to pay my way through tech school (1 semester left) and then a few other expenses left over from the 1600 yet.

I'm getting it all paid off and I'm making progress, but I've just got that dang old itch really bad.....

What's a guy to do? Maybe I'll have to finally start parting out my rusty old '66 chevy bel-air...

Donovan from Wisconsin

Oh yeah, the 1755 is on the right....

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Don-Wi

09-23-2006 23:04:06




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 Re: Getting that itch again... in reply to Don-Wi, 09-22-2006 22:46:05  
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I guess I should explain some of my sitiation...

Money is always a bit of an issue, espescially with one shed in poor shape on one end and the other sittign in a pile for quite some time. It's one of those steel arch sheds, this one is supposes to be 45x80 or so, and we're gonna make about 30' or so the shop area, when we can finally afford some concrete. It's supposed to be installed on 2 large curbs on either side with a channel for it to sit in, because it's original design was also for grain. It's just fine for a machine shed as well. We did the math, and it'll only take maybe 5 more yards of concrete to pour a floating slab for the whole shed with a curb to keep the ends from slipping out. I forget off hand how thick the concrete would be, but I want to say 4-5". We would leave a square where we will plan to put the hoist, where we can excavate later and fill it in with gravel or something. We plan to have in-floor heat, with an outdoor wood stove and possibly another fuel as well if we don't get much wood that year or for maintaning a temperature just above freezing when we're not in there.

We may just install the lines right away and then the furnace in a year or 2, but it will be ready when we can afford that part. My brother bought a big 80 gallon air compressor this past summer, which he's got temporarily hooked into his breaker box. I'm thinking we'd probably go with a 20' wide overhead door because our widest machine is a 14' hydra swing, and it'd leave room to manuver a couple tractors or other vehicles.

If it ever gets too small, I'm sure we could just push the interior wall deeper. Not sure what kind of door on that end, but due to the arch it may have to be another overhead.

As far as the 1755 is concerned, I've always wanted to find a cumins to put in it, but lately I've been wondering just how bad the current 310 is and what it'd take to get it back up & running. I would plan to do a complete engine rebuild. It had the injection pump rebuilt a year or 2 before it died so that should be fine, although I think the hyd. pump may need some work. It was getting kinda weird towards the end, but I can't remember all the symtoms. While I'm at it, If I could find a set of fuel tank fenders, which I just may have a line on, I'd paint them up and put them on the 1855 which is the workhorse, and put the 18's fenders on the 1755 because it's fenders are either rusted on one side or pretty beat up on the other.

I'd probably stick with the 18.4 34's on the back, although I've considered upgrading to 38's to match the 1855. Not completely sure though becuase the 17 would have less power and a slightly slower speed would be nice for some things to help compensate, and we've already got a pair of 18.4-34 duals for our Massey 285 which also needs some engine work. (It'd be nice to run the 17 while the 285 is under the wrench)

As far as my work on the 1600 went, I took so long to get it done mainly because I didn't have any good place to go with it. I did most of my work outside which can really limit a guy's time when it's cold out, but for a farmer that's the only time he's got to fix some things. I'm plenty used to working in the driveway and I'm sure I'll still do it some times, but it'd be nice to have a concrete floor under the creeper instead of gravel that doesn't always let a guy roll, and a dry floor instead of a wet driveway because it just got done raining and I've gotta pull out the draw bar on the 1855 to run the 1000 rpm chopper.

As far as the girlfriend, that'll take care of it's self in due time. I'm not in any kind of a rush, and neither is she. Heck, she even helped get the cows in after they broke out today in the rain, mud, and slop.

Sorry to go on and on and on...

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Turke Bros Farms

09-23-2006 18:17:44




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 Re: Getting that itch again... in reply to Don-Wi, 09-22-2006 22:46:05  
Want a cheap building, big enough, low daytime heat cost? I got a real nice 20 x 100 greenhouse kit for $2,500.00. Freind of mine has 12 exterminating spray trucks , in the winter thats what he uses.



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Cliff Neubauer

09-23-2006 09:34:48




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 Re: Getting that itch again... in reply to Don-Wi, 09-22-2006 22:46:05  
If you can cash flow the loan payments I don't think you will regret putting up a shop and it will have the potential to make you as much money as anything on the farm. My suggestion is that since you are young and are looking at this as a long term deal is to not cut corners if you build. I think you would be better off to make payments for a few more years than to cut corners and later wish you hadn't. Right now our shop is a 40x40' quanset that was originally built for grain storage and it's nowhere near big enough for what we need and within the next five years or so we will probably have to build a bigger one. One thing I have done in my planning for a new shop is to lay my ideas out on cardboard to 1/64th scale and then I can use 1/64th scale toys to accurately see how the real building will work.

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in-too-deep

09-23-2006 11:02:06




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 Re: Getting that itch again... in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 09-23-2006 09:34:48  
That, my friend, is a spectacular idea. I applaud you. I wish I could design a shop so I could get out the farm toys again : )



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Dug

09-23-2006 09:31:56




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 Re: Getting that itch again... in reply to Don-Wi, 09-22-2006 22:46:05  
If you have the cash in your pocket, build the shed. If you have to borrow the money, wait until you have the cash in your pocket and then build your shed. Do a little math and you will quickly realize how expensive borrowing money is. You sound like a young man, you have plenty of time. Save your money for the things you want/need and pay cash. No sense in making the bankers richer than they already are...

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Kelly C

09-23-2006 08:34:54




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 Re: Getting that itch again... in reply to Don-Wi, 09-22-2006 22:46:05  
Got a Idea for you. Go pick up one of those 10 foot by 20 foot tent garages. Can get one for $300 or so. A torpedo heater and a couple of lights and your in bussiness.



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Bill WI

09-23-2006 06:50:18




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 Re: Getting that itch again... in reply to Don-Wi, 09-22-2006 22:46:05  
Nice to see there's some of us around yet, cowman.



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wilman

09-23-2006 06:47:20




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 Re: Getting that itch again... in reply to Don-Wi, 09-22-2006 22:46:05  
Donovan,

I enjoy your pictures that you have been posting. I don't really know you other than your posts and maybe you have all this worked out but this is something to consider. I am going to presume that you are in your mid 20's or so seeing as you talk about finishing up Tech school, girlfriend etc. The first thing you need to do before you start investing in a shop is think about your future plans. What is the plan once you graduate tech school? Are there jobs readily available where you are at? What about the girlfriend if she becomes more than that? Do you plan on staying in the same area as your parents? Do your parents plan on moving any time soon? Do you want a place of your own? Do you eventually want a shop built with your money at a place you may not be living. Like NECowman says, it doesn't take something fancy to do some major work in. You could pull the engine outside and work on it in a garage somewhere. Maybe you could find a garage, move it to your place and set it up as a temporary shop. Two of the best old time mechanics that I knew used the garage attached to there houses and did major tractor and car work in it. I do feel your itch. I want a shop in the worst way and the wife and I want an acreage in the worst way. But right now it isn't meant to be so I am making due with my garage/shop here in town. I also know a lot of times we don't know what the future will hold either so sometimes you just need to jump with both feet and hope for the best.

Good luck

Wil

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Don-Wi

09-23-2006 08:13:02




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 Re: Getting that itch again... in reply to wilman, 09-23-2006 06:47:20  
The main thing with the project is, It'll be winter soon and I ain't gonna work outside when it's 10 below outside. Technically my brothers and I own the farm so it will be built on my land. My parents aint quitting the farm for another 10 years or so so they ain't gonna move either. I've got most of my future planned out, got a job and plenty more out there (machine tool)

Mainly, yeah I wanna start another project but with winter coming and no good place to work (garage is out, ma's jeep aint sitting outside and neither is dad's truck) We've got the shed in a pile, we just gotta pour the concrete and get the shed up.

Donovan

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Nebraska Cowman

09-23-2006 08:52:15




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 Re: Getting that itch again... in reply to Don-Wi, 09-23-2006 08:13:02  
I guess I forget it snows in Wisconsin... and you only get two seasons; Winter, and July. I visited some friends at Appleton one time at Easter. They still had frost in the ground! And their house had TRIPLE Pane windows! Never had seen such a thing.



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J Schwiebert

09-23-2006 06:12:16




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 Re: Getting that itch again... in reply to Don-Wi, 09-22-2006 22:46:05  
I see both sides of what you two are saying. Don, if you are thinking shop start to vist some and keep a notebook of the features that you like. We did one several years ago. Two things maybe we should have done: Machinery is getting bigger. The combine we have now only clears on height about 1 inch. The other one only had about 2 inches on each side to clear the header. Also think of extra insulation to keep heating cost down..

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Nebraska Cowman

09-23-2006 04:31:13




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 Re: Getting that itch again... in reply to Don-Wi, 09-22-2006 22:46:05  
It don't take a fancy shed Don. I've done some pretty major tear-downs outside.

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