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OT: Texas Draught and Foundation pull-away

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Stephen R. Hort

09-11-2006 09:28:19




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Hi folks,
The draught is killing me in so many ways. It seems that when it does spit rain, it happens everywhere but at my place. My tractor barn was built on the side of a hill, and about 100 yards of dirt was backfilled to create a level spot to pour the 4"-5" slab. The barn is 30'x30'. Well, the dirt has been pulling away from the foundation everywhere, but on the steep side, its pulled away so far that I can actually see it pulling away from up underneath the slab (so, not just away from the side). Now, I'm getting scared that the slab may break. Anyone got any tips for what to do? Should I go buy sand and try to shovel it up underneath there? thanks, Stephen

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sjh

09-12-2006 17:29:34




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 Re: OT: Texas Draught and Foundation pull-away in reply to Stephen R. Horton (TX), 09-11-2006 09:28:19  
Call your local concrete company and ask if they have flowable fill. It is fly ash and a little cement. It has the same psi rating as compacted soil.



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noncompos

09-11-2006 12:50:25




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 Re: OT: Texas Draught and Foundation pull-away in reply to Stephen R. Horton (TX), 09-11-2006 09:28:19  
Stephen: there should've been some kind of retaining wall/holder to keep the fill from slipping out. I think David Gray is right, because generally nothing you can push up under the slab will take up the weight the way the fill did when it was new. Even putting concrete in won't push up the slab edge to relieve downward pressure, and if the ground is soft a piece of concrete will settle, too. Depending on how much you want/can afford to spend, stabilise what's left as best you can; if you can get some kind of foundation under the eroding corner (without losing any more fill there than you have to) then block/brick up to the bottom edge of the slab, it might save it.A professional might be able to tell if the edge needed to be jacked up slighty, but that's really ticklish: you have as much chance of cracking it pushing up as relieving just the downward warping (if it's lost enough fill to warp: it may still be OK if only a little bit is exposed). The problem is you can't tell how much the remaining fill under the slab has settled/softened without chancing softening it more checking it. Ticklish, to say the least. Good luck.

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Bill46

09-11-2006 10:03:49




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 Re: OT: Texas Draught and Foundation pull-away in reply to Stephen R. Horton (TX), 09-11-2006 09:28:19  
Got the same problem. I have been running water around the house with a soaker hose. It seems to help some.
My place is near the Bay and this black gumbo is dry as can be. I have cracks in the yard nearly 2 inches across and 6 inches deep.
Haven't had a good rain in months...it all goes West and North.
Like you...I hope it rains soon.



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David Gray

09-11-2006 09:56:30




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 Re: OT: Texas Draught and Foundation pull-away in reply to Stephen R. Horton (TX), 09-11-2006 09:28:19  
When I inspected new and refurbished homes in KY, there were at least incidents where fill settled away. Contractors tried digging under and pouring more concrete, cutting out the section of broken footer and digging a cavity and filling it with concrete. All wasted money. The only thing that corrected the problem was to use a specialty company that drilled a jack into the ground until it hit rock to form a base, then the special jack was attached to the footer and the sagging area raised to the original level. Homes are still there and the brick hasn't even cracked. Good luck.

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Nebraska Cowman

09-11-2006 09:35:51




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 Re: OT: Texas Draught and Foundation pull-away in reply to Stephen R. Horton (TX), 09-11-2006 09:28:19  
Probably. Dry sand and then cover it with black dirt because the sand or lighter soil will blow away.



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