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6.5 Diesel PMD

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bm3501466

09-04-2006 17:31:41




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Why do the pump module drivers on the GM 6.5 diesel go bad so often? I am on my second one in 12,000 miles. That is ridiculous. I have seen those heat exchanger products they make that attach to the PMD to make them cool better. Do these work well? It is quite funny, I broke down the other day because of the thing. I didn"t have anything to cool the PMD down in my truck except for a fire extinguisher. I gave that thing a quick spray and then it started right up. Anyways my question is what do you recommend to prevent future PMD burnouts? Thanks

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rottenrobert

09-04-2006 20:45:14




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 Re: 6.5 Diesel PMD in reply to bm3501466, 09-04-2006 17:31:41  
Talking to a guy the other day that said he found a kit that mounts the fuel driver up and out of the valley. Don"t know where he got it ao anything but he said it came with a bracket and wire harness extension.



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Bob

09-04-2006 20:36:57




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 Re: 6.5 Diesel PMD in reply to bm3501466, 09-04-2006 17:31:41  
A few thoughts from a guy who has worked with these since they were new...

The pump and PMD are cooled by excess fuel flowing through the injection pump, and returning to the tank.

If the fuel lift pump located in the frame rail, more or less under your left heel, quits, or gets weak, or the oil pressure switch or other circuitry that powers it (setup varies by model year)fails, the engine may still run reasonably well, but the IP and PMD won"t get the cooling benefits of the excess fuel.

Also, the fancy plastic "beauty cover" over the top center of the engine only holds heat in, and makes the IP and PMD run HOTTER.

Even with bad luck, and a weak fuel pump, 12,000 miles from a PMD is REALLY below average.

Are you SURE the PMD is failing, or is there a wiring harness or connector problem you are temporarily "fixing" when you change out the PMD"s???

Also, take a close look at your PMD"s. There may be different versions out now, but traditionally, if you look at the backside, there will be 2 oblong "pits", with power transistors in them, each covered by a plastic insulator. Once you pop the insulators out with a pick, the power transistors are exposed.

They are held down with two 1/4" nuts. On probably 75% of "failed" PMD"s, these nuts have worked loose, from a combination of thermal cycles, and vibration. This causes an poor connection between the collector (case) of the transistor, and the connections on the circuit board behind it. I remove the nuts, install a new "star" lockwasher and a tiny drop of locktite, and TIGHTEN down the nuts.

On one of my pickups, I have about 40,000 miles on a PMD "restored" in that manner, with NO problems.

Using an extension harness, the FSD can be mounted behind the LH headlight, where it gets a constant flow of air while the pickup is moving.

You can buy a harness, or simply make your own, by cutting the plug off of the existing harness, with a couple off inches of wire left on it, and solder extension leads to each wire, IIRC, somewhere between 30" and 40".

The "jobber" heatsinks are pricey. I have made several of my own by using surplus finned heat sink material bought on ebay. (About $20.00 for four good-sized pieces.)

All that is needed is to accurately drill and tap the 4 FSD mounting holes, and a couple of holes to mount the heat sink assembly with.

I take a FSD that has had the transistor mounting nuts Loctited and tightened, omit the insulator caps, then fill the "pit" around each transistor ALMOST full of silicone dielectric grease.

Then, I coat the mounting face of the FSD with the GOOD silver-bearing computer CPU heat transfer compound, and bolt it in place.

Then, I thoroughly clean off any extra heat transfer compound that has squeezed out, wiping the area clean with solvent. Then, I put a bead of clear silicon sealant around the area where the FSD and heat sink meet, to prevent the possibility of any moisture creeping in.

In several years, with a half-dozen or so of these setups, we have not had a single problem with the FSD"s.

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Joe-Bob/IN

09-04-2006 18:45:57




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 Re: 6.5 Diesel PMD in reply to bm3501466, 09-04-2006 17:31:41  
They fail due to the extreme heat from the engine. Best way to solve the problem is to remotely mount it. Mine is on the skid plate behind a special bracket to protect it. Costs big $$$ to do that but no problems yet. There are also the ones I am sure you have seen that probably work too. Biggest thing is to get it off that IP.



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