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I Want a Tracto

09-01-2006 14:41:47

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I found an ad for an International 574 tractor, running, Diesel, 80% Tires, Orchard Fenders for around $3,000.

Would this make for a good first tractor? Any "typical" problems with this model? It's around 1 1/2 hours away by car if I decide to check it out.

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JWCinMS

09-02-2006 16:07:13

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Re: International 574, Would this be a good First in reply to I Want a Tractor, 09-01-2006 14:41:47

I sold one two years ago that we bought new in 1973. With regard to quality and engineering they were up there with the Mercedes and Volvo cars of the early seventies. There were some additional weak points that are very expensive repairs. 1. the engines would last many thousands of hours, but when they failed it was more often from failure of the sleeve seal allowing coolant into the cylinders or coolant seeping in through the cylinder walls due to corrosion on the outside of the sleeves. Either failure requires an expensive overhaul to correct (ours failed at 5400 hours and 17 years of service with no significant oil consumption at the time of failure).
2. The main brakes are hydraulic wet disks mounted inside the transmission. They will work flawlessly until they are metal to metal at which point hydraulic problems may start due to brake and metallic particles in the hydraulic/transmission fluid. Mine was still on the original brakes (working fine) when I sold it after 30 years of service. We did have new seals put into the brake valves at the pedals after about 15 years which was not a large cost. Estimates for the main brake job were $1200 to $1500 about 3 years ago.
3. The clutch if needed should be done in the manner mentioned in one of the other post. We had the first clutch put in after about 15 years and it lasted 3years. It was an aftermarket clutch and pressure plate. Then next and last clutch was an IH Dynalife clutch (original equipment replacement) along with a new IH pressure plate, this time the flywheel was resurfaced and there were no more clutch problems over the balance of the 30 years. There was not a significant price difference in having the work done at the CIH dealer than the quotes received from other shops using after-market parts. It cost about $600 in 1993.
4. A more minor but still expensive item is the fuel tanks. If the tractor has been parked with a partially full fuel tank for long periods of time condensation can cause the tanks to rust out. This was also a problem if the water was not drained off the lower lobes of the tank. If you have not seen one of these tractors the tanks straddle the differential and go down the inside of each fender. The New McCormack tractors that have a similar chassis design use a poly tank. A new tank may run $400 to $600 or more just for the tank. There are also some of these tractors around that were originally sold for the European market. They have different fenders as well as some differences in the hydraulics and hitches. There may be parts availability issues with them.

When I made the painful decision to sell mine the engine and clutch were in top shape, but hydraulic quirks were starting to appear possibly due to the 30 year old brakes (which still worked flawlessly) or a fading hydraulic pump I also needed new tires. I new that $2500 to $3500 would have put her up to snuff for another 15 years. My decision to walk away was based on the fear that the sleeve/sleeve seal problem which is more time related than wear related would reduce my total investment to a $1500 parts tractor or that I would have well over $10,000 invested in a 30 year old utility tractor (counting it sales value at the time I sold it). I agree with the other�s that if it is a American version of the 574 diesel it is likely in need of some expensive repairs for the price you mentioned. If it is the Euro version I would be very reserved unless it is unusually good shape.

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I Want a Tractor

09-02-2006 22:51:54

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Re: International 574, Would this be a good First in reply to JWCinMS, 09-02-2006 16:07:13

Thank You JWC. Appreciate your information / experience and tips.

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I Want a Tractor

09-01-2006 23:07:57

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Re: International 574, Would this be a good First in reply to I Want a Tractor, 09-01-2006 14:41:47

Thanks for the replies.

I'll give him a call in the morning and arange to check it out (if he still has it.) The ad reads as follows:

%%B"International 574, 52 hp, diesel with orchard fenders, 80% rubber, $2995;"%%B

My plan (for whatever tractor I purchase) is to go over it and make repairs, work on the apearance a bit and use it around my orchard and adjoing open field space. Need to keep the weeds down, maybe pull a few small stumps, etc. It's just one acre with a house on it.

Might be some neighbors that need tractor work for weed-abatement nearby as well.

I have a cousin in Salem, Oregon that used to own 300 acres planted in wheat and ryegrass. Ran his tractor there a couple summers in my teens.

Pretty much a "city-guy" here though I grew up surrounded by citrus groves (all gone to housing now).

Two years of high-school auto-shop, classes in welding at community-college, worked plant-maintainence in an Aerspace Forge-Shop and in an Engineering Office before I went back to college for a Bussiness Admin degree.

Over the years I've rebuilt several automotive engines, transmissions (practically everything else on a car / light-truck), light fabrication and machine-shop work, built an 11-second drag-race car, two V-8 CJ-5 Jeeps, airplane-engine repairs (while working toward an FAA Airframe / Powerplant Cert) and nearly have my FAA Commercial-Pilot Certificate with 400-Hours total Flight-time (checkride-prep) and working toward a Flight-Instructor certificate too.

I have accumulated a fair number of tools, big two-Stage Compressor (lots of pneumatic tools,) Gas, Stick and MIG Welding-Equipment, shop press, small lathe and mill, etc...

Still, this will be a new challenge for me and I'm sure I'll need some good advice from you guys in the future.

Thanks Again,
Derek C.

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ncdiesel48

09-01-2006 17:59:37

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Re: International 574, Would this be a good First in reply to I Want a Tractor, 09-01-2006 14:41:47

The only bad thing I can say about a 574 is that when you are working it the trans gets hot and burns your feet and the inside of your legs, spent many hours on one. Other than that they are great. Three thousand sounds low to me it must be really wore out.

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Jonfarmer

09-01-2006 16:51:40

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Re: International 574, Would this be a good First in reply to I Want a Tractor, 09-01-2006 14:41:47

Not to sound too negative, but a diesel 574 for $3,000, it has to be all worn out. A 574 is 50-55hp on the pto and is a great little tractor, my uncle had one on a small 60 cow dairy and wore it out over his many years of farming, used it for most everything, cleaning the barn, round baling, haying, etc... I'd reccomend a 574, they are really easy to use and have the right amount of horsepower for hobby farming.

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MNredfarmer

09-01-2006 16:05:02

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Re: International 574, Would this be a good First in reply to I Want a Tractor, 09-01-2006 14:41:47

I've owned a tractor of this style (685, a little newer than the one you're interested in) for a year and a half. When I was looking into buying mine, people told me that the weak spots on these tractors were the brakes, parking brake, and the clutch. Well, 3 months after buying it, the left brake always needs bleeding. The parking brake is excellent on this one, and I bought it knowing the clutch would need to be replaced in the near future. I got the guy to throw $750 off the asking price. It's still holding but is about at the end of it's rope. I have a loader on mine and use it to move big round bales. I very happy with my little 685 and i'm glad I bought it. My vote is, "go for it"

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Jonfarmer

09-01-2006 16:44:03

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Re: International 574, Would this be a good First in reply to MNredfarmer, 09-01-2006 16:05:02

For what it's worth, I got a IH 484 I had the dealer replace the clutch on last year, cost me $800 plus the cost of having the flywheel resurfaced and the bolts countersunk by a machine shop. I currently got it back at the dealer for the parking brake (needs a new brake band) and the differantial lock, the estimate is $2,000, but I was told that it might be less depending upon what they find and the parts needed, in this case, $1,300 of the estimate is in labor due to the fact that they really got to tear it down to get to it. It's very hard to find a used tractor that everything works on, especially if your looking at one thats 30yrs old like a 574 and if you do find one thats mint, they aren't cheap. This 484, most people wouldn't fix the parking brake or the differantial lock, but the parking brake is important to me since it is a saftey issue and since I do some custom work with it from time to time, it might very well end up costing me more than $2,000, and the diff lock is right in the same area, so it wasn't going to cost me very much extra, and those were the only things wrong with the tractor, it is nice now, but it was darn near a piece of junk when I got it.

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IaGary

09-01-2006 14:52:06

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Re: International 574, Would this be a good First in reply to I Want a Tractor, 09-01-2006 14:41:47

Doesn't sound to bad to me.

It depends on what you need a tractor for as to if it is right for you.

Does it have a 3pt?

If so and can be a handy tractor for many differant implements.

I'd check it out for that price to make sure it is not all beat to heck.

Gary

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