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Spaceman

08-29-2006 11:29:25




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The front tires flop side to side when moving. The steering wheel turns half a turn before engaging. The worm geer looks good and so does the steering geer. Any ideas on the cause of all that play? I am in the process of replaceing both geers as a last resort. Any suggestions where to look for parts?




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Hobo,NC

08-29-2006 18:14:46




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 Re: super A steering in reply to Spaceman, 08-29-2006 11:29:25  
Tips, I have picked up from this site,some mine but credit needs to go to the fine folks here. I use to sell a rebuild kit on ebay till it got to were others found out were I got the parts then they sold'em for less than I could buy'em so I did not see were all of use needed to loose so I let'em have it. Bearings, seals, bush'ins, will run ya $60 are less
There are no adjustments on this steering gear. All you can do is make sure that everything is as tight as you can get it and then you will need to start replacing bearings and bushings. The good news is that new bearings and bushings where needed will usually tighten these up enough to be satisfactory. Rarely is the worm gear or worm wheel worn enough to need that expensive replacement unless you are really particular. After tightening and checking keys , next thing is to take the big plug out of front of steering gear and check the ball bearing on the end of the steering wheel/worm gear shaft. Shaft and worm are all one piece and ball bearing is clamped to end with castle nut. Any play in bearing or in clamping system will result in play in steering. You can also check by pulling/pushing on steering wheel. If there is any back and forth play, the bearing on the end of the shaft is likely bad or loose. Inner race must be tight to the worm gear shaft and outer race must be tightly clamped to the steering gear housing by the big hex head plug. Sometimes you have to put a washer under the plug to get it to tighten up, but be sure the washer does not also tighten against any of the other bearing parts or the bearing inner race. Most of these I rebuild have 1/2 turn play in the wheel and hard to steer. i shoot for 1/4 turn free play in the wheel or less and easy to steer. If the bolt holes in the axle assy are oboblonged I weld them up and re drill, worn holes and bent bolts will throw the caster off enough to cause hard steer'n. if i could tell for sure this is the magic bullet to fix steer'n problems I would'int have to git my hands dirty enny more. you are gonna havta take a look. I have had good luck with this kit but always find sumin else worn, most of the time its just a matter of tightening up thinks are replacing the keys etc. most sectors are reused.

You kin rebuild it on the tractor but enny way you go you will need to remove the front axle. Remove the steer地 wheel and then the big nut/cap on the end of the steer地 box and the whole steer地 shaft will slide out. Remove the pitman arm then six bolts that hold the steer地 bolster and remove, it comes out the bottom. Then you kin remove the sector for bear地 , seal & bush地 replacement. No mater what the bush地s look like replace弾m.
If the steer地 shaft is bent and most are they are no problem to straiten out. You will need access to a press to straiten it.

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bhb

08-29-2006 13:59:05




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 Re: super A steering in reply to Spaceman, 08-29-2006 11:29:25  
I have an A and also a Super A. I have never had a problem with the steering on the A. The super A had the same problem with the steering that you have. By reading other posts over the years it seems that this is an inherent problem with the Super A. What I found was the key and keyway on the steering shaft were worn, (the lower end by the gears) allowing for the play in the steering wheel. I machined the shaft and gear to accept a larger key. That was about 6 years ago. It is starting to get sloppy again. I hopes this helps you.
Bill

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MARK RED OR GREEN

08-29-2006 16:49:28




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 Re: super A steering in reply to bhb, 08-29-2006 13:59:05  
have super a same problem just put it back together took a larger key filed and sanded till it fit tight new bearings and seals much much better



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