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raleigh

08-15-2006 18:49:25

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OK please excuse my ignorance here, but guys I have to know. Is it safe for a 4 year old to ride with you on the tractor? It would be a John deere 4020. I figured it would be dangrous with a bushhog, but what about useing a set of harros? could my 4 year old ride with me is that DANGROUS!!!

No cab on the tractor...

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Brad Wright of MO

08-24-2006 17:31:42

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

I started field work when I was 9 pulling a hay rake with a WD-45. I started hauling 3 bales at a time on a teailer hooked to the back of an Allis Chalmers D-19 when I was 11. I also started harrowing at that time. Im am now teddering as well as everything else. I also learned to mow hay this year. Ive been riding in the combine since before I can remember. Im 14 and havent had an accident yet. Because im safe and think about what im going to do. I dont think it is a bad idea as long as the kid is mature enough to handle it. I dont think it has anything to do with your age I think its how serious and mature you are about what your doing.

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JMS/MN

08-16-2006 13:27:25

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

My apologies to you for my mouthy comment posted last nite. Got to resist 'putering after a few too many beers and solving all the problems of the world. Again, I'm sorry.

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4010guy

08-16-2006 13:48:39

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to JMS/MN, 08-16-2006 13:27:25

lol well now i sorta liked your reply,,,,it was a littel rash but i liked it just the same,,

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NcNE

08-16-2006 10:00:35

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

Although I'm not sure what exactly to tell you about the open station 4020, a friend of mine found a solution for an older tractor with a cab if you happen to have one. With a little engineering, it might even be able to work for your situation. He took a seat out of a power-wheels tractor and mounted it on a short post and attached a seatbelt and it clamps into a bracket he made so it can be removed when not in used. This allows the youngster to ride and observe while being in a safety seat. It is basically similar to the training seat in the newer tractors. Hope this helps

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RustyFarmall

08-16-2006 06:23:47

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

Raliegh, after reading all of the responses, my opinion is that maybe you shouldn't have even asked this question. The 4 year old is your son, you are his father. You are the one that is driving the tractor, and you are the one that knows if you are a safe and careful operator. How else is the boy going to learn? I am sure that I was riding on the tractor with my dad at a much younger age than 4, and was even allowed to drive that tractor while dad rode, by the age of 9 or 10 dad turned me loose with the tractor and hay rake, and shortly after I learned how to mow hay. Take the boy with you, but only for short periods of time where you know you will have smooth riding. Hold him on your lap, and be careful.

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Bobl1958

08-16-2006 08:14:19

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to RustyFarmall, 08-16-2006 06:23:47

Rusty you gave about the only sane opinion of the whole discussion. When I think about it, My God how did I ever survive to 47 years old? Better yet, how did my son ever survive to be 24? I rode a million miles on the fender of a 4020 and 930. Was driving a 5020 discing wheat stubble when I was 10. No way should I be alive. I should have been protected in the house with the women baking pies. He11, I probably would have burnt my finger off on the stove and been crippled the rest of my life. Does anyone ever wonder how in the he11 these kids are ever going to grow up and KNOW anything that will help them survive? And like someone else said, how is riding on a tractor much more dangerous than in a car at 75-80mph on an interstate? As Rusty said, raliegh, you are the only one who can decide if the situation is safe enough to let someones life be pretty much in your hands. Bob

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raleigh

08-16-2006 08:20:47

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to Bobl1958, 08-16-2006 08:14:19

Well I thank you for your help and your response. I think from what I read here it is best my kids stay away at least until they learn how to drive. The number one thing is to be safe.
but you are absolutly RIGHT!!!!! How is anyone ever going to learn or expriance anything unless they do it. No risk no reward just have to be very very carfull and smart about it. But I will not let me child be near it while it is working....

What I DO hate is the sarcastic remarks by one or two people. I am just trying to learn what to do thats all, and to say thats a dumb question, well you get the point...
thanks again for your help..

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Bob

08-16-2006 08:37:27

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-16-2006 08:20:47

Remember, too, there's a BIG difference in the chances for a SERIOUS accident between taking a kid for a SHORT ride, in 1St gear, on level ground, as opposed to, say, "bushhogging" ditches with the kid on-board!

I wonder how many of those that condemned ANY tractor ride have turned their kids loose on a 4-wheeler ("QUAD" for you PC types) that is capable of breaking the highway speed limit?

There's been some TERRIBLE wrecks with those around here over the years, yet folks continue to treat them as a "toy" to keep young kids busy.

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raleigh

08-16-2006 10:56:14

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to Bob, 08-16-2006 08:37:27

WOW!!!!! Very GOOd POINT!!! Very Good!!

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jubilee johnny

08-16-2006 06:05:30

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

I would like to know how old everyone was when they started driving tractors, particularly if they were raised on farms. One of my favorite photos is of my grandfather holding me on his ford 861 powermaster at the age of 4. I was age 10 or 12 when I started field work, and 12 when I drove the grain truck from the field to our on-the-farm grain bins and operated the auger. I have a 3 yo boy who takes a slow ride with me 2 or 3 times a week on our '48 jd b up to the mail box and back and loves it. Your question has to be answered with some common sense and not just a flat yes or no.

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Christos

08-16-2006 11:29:07

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Re: 4020 Safety/Learned how to drive in reply to jubilee johnny, 08-16-2006 06:05:30

I officially learned how to drive a tractor this year at the age of 22. I technically started driving tractors (on my dad's lap) when I was 6 or 7 (89-90).

In retrospect my dad did a lot stupid things with us, like sticking buckets on the bush-hog and all of us sitting on to go apple picking (the bush hog wasn't engaged) Same thing with the front loader of the backhoe or sitting in the cab.

This is mind you my dad was a MD, however we also knew better than to do something stupid when you were 15 feet up in the air picking apples.

like I said before I wouldn't do this with my kids (when I have them) its just not worth risking it in my opinon.

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John (C-IL)

08-16-2006 05:42:03

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

It is NEVER safe to let a child ride on a tractor, especially one that is working. The operator has way to much to occupy his mind without adding the safety of a young passenger to the list. Don't even think about it.

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Don-Wi

08-15-2006 23:45:38

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

I gotta go with another vote for NO!!! While I did ride on the fender of our tractors, espescially the 285 and the 1600, I don't recommend it.

I started driving tractors when I was 5 raking hay. Now I'm 21 going on 22, and I do just about all of the feild work, and I put many hours on the 285, 165 and 1600, and now our 1855 we got a few years ago. Seems I put the most hours on the 1600 which I rebuilt and got running last summer.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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JMS/MN

08-15-2006 23:14:45

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

Where is that 4 year old going to ride? In a car safety seat? Too many posters say there is no such thing as a dumb question. I never believe that. Your's is a dumb question. If you can't figure out the answer- go back to town, ride the bus, don't buy anything more complicated than a toothpick!

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aFORDable

08-16-2006 11:18:54

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to JMS/MN, 08-15-2006 23:14:45

Keep your day job. Your reply is not cute nor necessary.

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klans man

08-16-2006 06:47:23

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to JMS/MN, 08-15-2006 23:14:45

There is no dumb question f@ck YOU dumb @ss

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Bob

08-17-2006 00:17:15

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to klans man, 08-16-2006 06:47:23

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Jon Hagen

08-15-2006 21:19:20

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

NO !!
A few years ago a fellow north of me was mowing ditches with an open station tractor and trailer mower. He hit a culvert which tossed him off the right side of the tractor right in front of the cutter bar. He tried to get up and scramble out of the way,but no time. The result was he lost 3 of 4 limbs. I believe both feet and one hand cut off.

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raleigh

08-15-2006 21:35:22

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to Jon Hagen, 08-15-2006 21:19:20

Hhhuuuuh my gosh!!!! I don't think i can take much more....I might not get the 4020 now.....uuuuu hhh I think I am going to be sick.....

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Mike M

08-16-2006 04:24:18

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 21:35:22

It's not the tractor to blame !!!!! It's careless operators !!!! You got to be aware 100% of the time. But (stuff) happens.

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raleigh

08-15-2006 21:10:18

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

WOW!!!!! so this is Deffently OUT!!! an absolute NO NO!!!!

Well heck it sounds dangrous for even ME to be on there!!!

Thank You so Much!!! and BOY I am SOOOO sorry to here about all these injuries!!! This is SOO sad!!

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Jimmy King

08-15-2006 20:47:57

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

Yes it is very dangerous I have a friend that his 5 year old boy fell off the tractor and was killed, another friend his 5 year old fell off in the snow the big wheel ran over his head and did not hurt him. Now having said that I rode a million miles on the wide axle of a B Farmall, another million sitting backwards on the gas tank of a Super A, a milliom on the draw bar of an H and the twine box of 50T baler. Started pulling a drag when I was about 5 on a B raking hay, pulling a bundle wagon, when I was about 10. I was lucky, as soon as he was old as I was I started my son raking hay with a 460 pulling a left and right rake. YES It Is dangerous. So is driving or riding on I44 at 70 MPH.

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730virgil

08-15-2006 19:43:47

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

i worked for a guy who had his son riding on 4230 whil;e he was raking hay . son fall off and was ran over by rear tractor tire went over his whole body

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37 chief

08-15-2006 19:18:52

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

Breathing is dangerous. There is a time and place for everything. If there is enough room on the seat for the four year old a short ride on flat ground, I see no problem. I would have a problem holding a kid while mowing. growing up an a farm we were always riding on something. Stan

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Steven@AZ

08-15-2006 19:09:54

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

As I child, I was a victim of a tragic farm accident and lost a foot. What you are recommending is not safe. Even having a child in a tractor with a cab is not safe! Unless there is an extra seat with seat belt and ROPS structure, it is NOT SAFE!

I have to live the rest of my life injured because of a safety short cut - don't make another child pay the price.

IT IS NOT WORTH IT!

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BigMarv1085

08-15-2006 19:08:17

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

When I was a kid, a fellow a couple of miles from us had his kid fall off a 3020 with a harrow behind it. As the kid was sitting on the fender and fell backwards, his feet hit his dad which in turn pushed in the brake and clutch. The back tire he fell on threw him on the harrow breaking his arm. I would advise not.

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van robinson

08-15-2006 19:04:30

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

It is not safe to let a child ride with you at any time. Doesn't matter if you are harrowing, clipping or just riding. It is not worth the chance. Now, I have seen a tractor that a fellow built an additional seat onto for his son to ride on. It had a seatbelt on it to hold the boy in with. Still not perfectly safe, but better that just riding on lap.

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4010guy

08-15-2006 19:02:33

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

HA lol,,,Well about everybody on hear is gona say NO WAY ho zay,,,but When i was 4 i started driveing them myself and ol man put me in a grain truck at the ripe old age of 5...So go figurer.

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Christos

08-15-2006 19:00:03

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to raleigh, 08-15-2006 18:49:25

No.
(My fondest memory as a child was riding on my dad's lap while he was harrowing our fields with the 135, I don't even let my 15 year old sister near it because she's so light and if she got hurt I'd be upset)

If you won't let them ride with a bushhog, I wouldn't let them ride with a harrow.

Christos

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iowaW9

08-15-2006 19:06:11

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to Christos, 08-15-2006 19:00:03

When I was a kid a girl my age who lived on the next farm was riding with her dad on a 4020. She was sitting on the fender and somehow she fell off and her leg landed under the tire. Broke it good. Things just happen too fast on tractors.

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Rexalot

08-16-2006 05:35:01

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to iowaW9, 08-15-2006 19:06:11

Is this question some idea of a sick joke?

The answer is obvious.

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showcrop

08-16-2006 14:59:45

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Re: 4020 Safety in reply to Rexalot, 08-16-2006 05:35:01

after reading all of these posts it loos like a passenger is almost never a problem,but the consequences for being one of the four in ahundred are some what severe. I rode many hours as a passenger as a kid but carry none now. Maybe its just that news gets around faster now.

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