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How to deal with an absentee wannabe farmer?

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Shovelman

08-12-2006 19:10:09




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About 8 weeks ago, a guy from out of town bought 90 acres of open land next door. It was an old gravel bank, overgrown with witch hazel and scrub. He bush hogged off about 3/4 acre, put up some electric fence and bought 4 good sized beef animals to keep there.

Apparently, he has little experience in keeping stock and the poor buggers are starving. There is virtually no grass and they get no hay. I saw a few bags of grain laying out in the weather, but he hasn't been around in days, so they are not even getting the grain. Fortunately, they can access a pond for water.

A couple of weeks ago, the animals got out (I can't blame them) so I put them back in, gave them grain and hay, and when my neighbor showed up I told him what happened and if he needed hay, we had plenty. I thought he would take the hint, but he didn't.

I can't stand seeing animals suffer, so I have resorted to trespassing and give them hay when he isn't around.

One part of me says mind your own #@$% business, the other says to talk to the guy and risk ticking him off.

Suggestions?

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Leland

08-13-2006 17:46:22




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 Re: How to deal with an absentee wannabe farmer? in reply to Shovelman, 08-12-2006 19:10:09  
In ILl the dept of ag has an animal walfare unit that deals with this check with your and see ,heck you may as well try and get custdoy of them since you have already been feeding them .



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Billy NY

08-13-2006 08:14:17




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 Re: How to deal with an absentee wannabe farmer? in reply to Shovelman, 08-12-2006 19:10:09  
We had some sort of similar situation, but the guy lived there in a trailer ( he has a house but it's uninhabitable, no running water or power and he worked for us. He was an untidy person in appearance, and here he was on our farm ( one of dad's guys ) taking care of our animals, stealing our hay and diesel, yet he had hundreds of thousands in the bank. He was also run off several dairy farms, he used to milk too. His animals, dogs, ponies, you name it he's got one of them, dogs stacked in cages, meaner than mean, and taken care of their business on the poor one below, hardly fed, the usual scene that ends up on the news. All were mistreated and I saw it for my own eyes.

My guy at our place showed me where he lives and I took photos, so I could try and get through to dear old dad about this fool, who I could not stand already then find out he's abusing animals by not feeding them. I said what are you afraid of, the guy is worthless to you, he's taking our hay and diesel and he brags about his money in the bank waving bank statements in the air, gripes about alleged shortages on his hours, hardly does his job and our horses suffer poorly done stalls that I would have to re-do everyday, I said are you like brain dead here bub ? Can't have a guy like that around, and on top that I can't stand a person who does what he does at home, not feeding his animals, even when he stole from us, he barely fed them. Then because of his habits at home he was shorting our animals last winter too, they were getting thin, I put a stop to that though, but this is what the guy does, They'll be fine, they have plenty etc. His idea of plenty is none.

Finally got rid of him and got some heat on him at home, with the authorities, he told me I'd best grow eyes in the back of my head and I told him there is a point where I draw the line when it comes to the law, and don't ever forget it, been hunting deer a long time, maybe I change my target if I feel it necessary also told him don't ever come by my place here or the farm up there again. He's been known to do things like this, figure a little intimidation might change his mind, he's not worth a pitcher of warm saliva, (Herbert Hoover ?? )I don't think I'd waste my time and end up in zee klink over him, but mess with our places, the wrath will be unleashed.

We have some real jerks in the sticks by the place, he honestly thought I was a dumb city slicker, dumb kid etc., I did not notice him stealing etc. It's really funny the shite that goes on when you are not seen or known to be at the place, instead you are sitting in the woods with binoculars watching the guy steal from you and other things that go on. Somedays the bitter hatred towards other people because of what they do can get in the way of rational thinking, but step on my toes long enough, there comes a point where there is no return. The area is loaded with jerks, some of which have worked for us unfortunately. Trooper warned me that the area is loaded with of all things, s..x offenders, so screen your people well.

If you see the animals being mistreated, it's a hard call, yeah none of your business, but who will step up to the plate for them, no one and you know what it's like to be hungry, thirsty, overheated, bugs sucking on your skin, getting in yer eyes, maybe you can talk some sense into the guy by leading by example or maybe he needs a swift kick in the behind it ain't right to make an animal suffer that is for sure, I'd probably not watch much more of this if it were me, even though it's a rock and a hard place, when it comes to animals suffering, you have to end it, be it with firearm or by doing what you are supposed to do by making sure they have food and water, there is no other way in my opinion.

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Craig in MO

08-12-2006 21:03:34




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 Re: How to deal with an absentee wannabe farmer? in reply to Shovelman, 08-12-2006 19:10:09  
Wonder if this loser had kids too. Scary !!!



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Steve Crum

08-12-2006 20:04:22




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 Re: How to deal with an absentee wannabe farmer? in reply to Shovelman, 08-12-2006 19:10:09  
Around this area, treating animals like that WILL buy some big trouble and expense and even jail time.



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in-too-deep

08-12-2006 19:35:42




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 Re: How to deal with an absentee wannabe farmer? in reply to Shovelman, 08-12-2006 19:10:09  
We had the same kind of situation at my house. New folks put up fence and brouhgt out WAY too many horses for the grass that was growing. They got complaints and the police had to talk to us a few times. Then one night a week before Christmas, during a terrible snow storm, the horses had no shelter and they had to come get them and take them home. We never called the authorities but I think neighbors did. Chances are the people that see those cattle are thinking the same thing you are.

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Kelly Campbell

08-12-2006 19:31:22




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 Re: How to deal with an absentee wannabe farmer? in reply to Shovelman, 08-12-2006 19:10:09  
Call your local usda office and report the problem they'll take care of it.



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Turke Bros. Farms

08-12-2006 19:25:43




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 Re: How to deal with an absentee wannabe farmer? in reply to Shovelman, 08-12-2006 19:10:09  
Listen! Flat out tell him this is the way it works!, maybee he dont get it? And by the way here is the bill from the last few feedings im an easy guy to get along with but what you are doing is wrong. He might be stupid, you dont know. Come off easy at first if he bites then you can educate him. If he come off rude and like an A$$, then apologize tell him you are just bein neighborly and the next time call animal control.

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B-maniac

08-12-2006 19:24:20




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 Re: How to deal with an absentee wannabe farmer? in reply to Shovelman, 08-12-2006 19:10:09  
Turn him in to the Humane Society and let them handle it. If he finds out you have been over there, he will blame anything that happens to them on you, and since you tresspassed,you have no defense.Be persistant in calling them until you know they have been out there.If they don't come out, call the county Sheriff and THEY will call the Humane Society. Good Luck! People like him should be banned from having animals or kids if found guilty!!

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Matt from CT

08-12-2006 19:20:06




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 Re: How to deal with an absentee wannabe farmer? in reply to Shovelman, 08-12-2006 19:10:09  
My part of the country, the local Animal Control (Dog Warden) is the first point of contact.

They report up to the State Department of Agriculture.

They just opened a Large Animal Shelter at the state Women's Prison where Horses, and I suppose cattle, that are seized would go for rehab or to await a judicial decision. The inmates who tend the prison garden take care of the animals, too.



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