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Strip Tillage?

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Dave from MN

08-08-2006 17:32:23




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Any one doing this? Saw it on AG-PHD tonight. What type of soils is it best suited. Looks to me that basically all you want to do it turn up the soil where you will be setting the planter disc. Leaving the rest. Am I right? Also , with all this no tillage and residue accumulation isnt their an increase in risk of disease and insect potential? I do notice that on my ground I rent that the round up did not really knock out the weeds, seems to do less every year. Hoping my discing up in fall and seeding rye wont make things worse, or should I just plow it and get that soil worked up first once renters beans are out. I am in sandy loam with pockets of peat.

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Greywolf

08-09-2006 11:49:08




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 Re: Strip Tillage? in reply to Dave from MN, 08-08-2006 17:32:23  
Works well for me. Last year did an experiment. 2 pass spring till vs strip till. 169 vs 170 yield on the corn.

Did 250 acres this year, next year will be the full 525 acres.

Fuel use went from $11.20 per acre the "old way" of getting ready to plant beans to $1.03. That alone saves me close to $4,000 a year.

Add in some fert savings by banding (yeah yeah i know... ya"ll will say can"t cut back... but the U of MN says different and so do my soil tests).

Add to that no need to crunch fall tillage in .. let the corn dry in the field longer.

Over all... I"m conservative with a bout $13,000 a year savings.

And yes it does work in cold and wet soils. Was in mud on the 18th of May. Beans couldn"t look better. Corn is looking great as well.

SC MN is the location.

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paul

08-08-2006 23:22:56




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 Re: Strip Tillage? in reply to Dave from MN, 08-08-2006 17:32:23  
Strip or no or minimum till doesn't work in my county in MN. Way too cold, way too wet, way too short a season up here.

Darn, I'd like to do it.

Other parts of the state it works ok, at least the min & strip till. It is a work in progress, and everone develops their own best way yet, but it can sure reduce the fuel bill.

Darn.

I probably come closer to low-til than most in my county, I let the cattle graze cornstalks, then disk 1 or 2 times in spring & plant.

DMI is what everyone else does. A few try no-till, but it always bites them in a wet cool spring - we can't get rid of the water quick enough, and with no black showing it doesn't warm up fast enough. Gets real odd planting corn in June..... ..... .

--->Paul

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Eric in IL

08-08-2006 19:38:01




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 Re: Strip Tillage? in reply to Dave from MN, 08-08-2006 17:32:23  
Dave,
I have been strip-tilling corn for two years now. Prior to that I was strictly no-till. The strip-till sure seems to give the corn a boost in the spring, I think it is due to the strips warming up much quicker than the undisturbed no-till. Last year I had a side by side comparison with no-till and strip-till. In a months" time the strip till corn was 6 inches taller and it was planted a day later than the no-till. I do use Poncho for insects, but I think I would use it even if I were using conventional tillage. My soil types run from sandy loams to light timber soils. Strip-till seems to be an advantage where ever I use it.
There are alot of ideas out there now with strip-till in its" infancy. Some people make the strips in the fall, some in the spring. Some even make them in the fall and run over them again in the spring. I do the strips in the spring and plant anywhere from 0 to 3 days behind the strip-till bar. It just depends on how much moisture is out there.
I guess you can tell I"m sold on strip-till. I know it is not for everybody but I would say try it in moderation. If there is a way to rent some equipment or borrow from a neighbor I"d give it a try. Fuel costs are way less than conventional tillage and everyone can use a break on fuel with todays" prices!

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Bill(Wis)

08-08-2006 20:38:32




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 Re: Strip Tillage? in reply to Eric in IL, 08-08-2006 19:38:01  
Do you only grow corn, or do you rotate with other crops such as soybeans? If so, do you strip till with those crops or no-till?



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Eric in IL

08-09-2006 04:34:08




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 Re: Strip Tillage? in reply to Bill(Wis), 08-08-2006 20:38:32  
Bill,
I use a corn, soybean, and sometimes wheat rotation. I stripped some ground for beans this spring just as a trial. They look good, but I can't see a big advantage over no-till on the beans.
I also plant milo as a double-crop in my wheat stubble. I use strip-till there also so I can get a little nitrogen laid down and also better penetration of all the wheat straw.



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Bill(Wis)

08-09-2006 16:24:42




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 Re: Strip Tillage? in reply to Eric in IL, 08-09-2006 04:34:08  
That's kind of what I thought I'd do. Strip till for corn and then follow up the next year with no-till beans. I can't get away with double cropping this far north. I've had real good luck with no-till beans though. I plant corn one year and beans the next. Thanks.



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Bill(Wis)

08-08-2006 17:48:03




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 Re: Strip Tillage? in reply to Dave from MN, 08-08-2006 17:32:23  
Strip tillage is evolving as we speak. By no means is it a perfected science. Ray Rawson is quite often quoted on the subject. A lot of info on the internet from all kinds of sources. Tillage equipment manufacturers are getting with it and have all sorts of devices available. Brillion, Unverferth, JD, etc. I really believe in deep tillage with minimum suface disturbance for my soil conditions and want to try the "strip tillage" approach. Look at mfg websites, University results, Ray Rawson, etc. You're probably going to have to buy some new equipment and, most of all, change your attitude about growing crops.

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