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Questions on handling corn for a corn stove.

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Brian in NY

08-04-2006 07:55:58




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I have decided on a dual fuel corn/pellet stove.
Since I live in an agricultural region, plan is to burn mostly (if not all) corn.

My question is what is the best, easiest way to handle the corn. I can buy it bagged, by the ton at $180 per ton. That's easy...I can store it inside my dry, heated mouse free (thanks to my three cats) basement.

Was also thinking of "making" a grain bin out of gravity wagon.

Could use a regular grain bin, but they are pretty spendy.

Other question...am I going to have to purchase or make a cleaner for the corn? The bagged corn is pre-cleaned...but if I buy locally it won't be.

Thanks for any input you might have!

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Dale L

08-04-2006 10:50:46




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 Re: Questions on handling corn for a corn stove. in reply to Brian in NY, 08-04-2006 07:55:58  
Brian I've been buring corn for at least four or five years now. I went to an auction and bought a gravity box. I like to burn corn better than wood pellets because it burns hotter and costs less. I paid less than two bucks a bussel last winter. If you live in farm contry it's eazy to find farmers to sell you corn.I burn corn that comes right out of the combines.The newer model corn burners should have no trouble burning corn you get from a farm.I just fill up five gallon pails and pour them in the corn burner.

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Charlie M

08-04-2006 10:20:08




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 Re: Questions on handling corn for a corn stove. in reply to Brian in NY, 08-04-2006 07:55:58  
I would think one would want the corn cleaned to remove the fine stuff that makes dust and pieces of cob - since I'm working with old equipment maybe thats not a problem with corn harvested modern equipment. One thought- if you want to clean the corn - try picking up a fanning mill if you see one at an auction. I have one and they do a nice job cleaning grain - I've never seen one go for much money.

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RickL

08-04-2006 09:29:41




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 Re: Questions on handling corn for a corn stove. in reply to Brian in NY, 08-04-2006 07:55:58  
keept out of the house like others said rats mice big time. Put it in a gravity wagon and cover or if you have asccess find a used bulk bin that would work also,but they would have to bruing the bulk corn to you and auger it into the bin. Wagon you could just take it to a location and have it filled. Or better yet find you and old seed tender unit and it would already be weather proof but still be on wheels

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Nebraska Cowman

08-04-2006 08:45:39




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 Re: Questions on handling corn for a corn stove. in reply to Brian in NY, 08-04-2006 07:55:58  
$2.40 corn is only $85 a ton. What's the other hundred for? Won't the dust burn? I would never store the corn in the basement. You are just inviting bugs and more mice than the cats need. I'd think an old gravity wagon with tight roof would work swell. Just carry the corn in in buckets.



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Brian in NY

08-04-2006 09:19:48




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 Re: Questions on handling corn for a corn stove. in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 08-04-2006 08:45:39  
Well...to be honest I don't know why it is $180 per ton.. I think there is at least one middle man and everyone needs their cut. That's why I was thinking the gravity wagon would be a good idea. I think corn is up near $90 per ton locally here, don't know how much I would have to buy to get that price, have been told 12 ton minimum...I can't store that much!

One more question...how to I make a "tight roof"
for a gravity wagon?

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Rauville

08-04-2006 09:42:22




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 Re: Questions on handling corn for a corn stove. in reply to Brian in NY, 08-04-2006 09:19:48  
We use an old gravity box for ground feed. It's pretty simple to mount a 2x4 along the top of each side, and a 2x12 on each end. The end pieces, are cut to slope from the middle to the 2x4 on the sides. Put in a ridge pole, and a couple of "rafters" to support either a good truck tarp, or a plywood roof with a access door.
There is even a factory made formed metal roof for gravity boxes available.

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Midwest redneck

08-04-2006 08:57:40




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 Re: Questions on handling corn for a corn stove. in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 08-04-2006 08:45:39  
I have corn stored in garbage cans in my house, will the mice still come in and chew through the cans? (My cans are heavy duty rubber made with snap on lids)



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Nebraska Cowman

08-04-2006 11:10:21




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 Re: Questions on handling corn for a corn stove. in reply to Midwest redneck, 08-04-2006 08:57:40  
Unless you have trash piled around the cans I doubt rodents will open them. I have a plastic garbage can sitting outside that I stored some wheat in several years ago and nothing ever bothered it.



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MN Bob

08-04-2006 09:16:32




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 Re: Questions on handling corn for a corn stove. in reply to Midwest redneck, 08-04-2006 08:57:40  
Answer to will they chew through- YES. Mice and rats both can and will chew through even light metals if hungry enough. They eat the insulation off electric wires and get a shocking suprise.lol
I would store in heavy gauge aluminum or galvinized with tight lids. 5 gal buckets work fine, in the very coldest days you may use 2 buckets. Most of the winter not even 1 unless you are heating the whole house 24-7.

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IH2444

08-04-2006 09:10:04




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 Re: Questions on handling corn for a corn stove. in reply to Midwest redneck, 08-04-2006 08:57:40  
I don't think a plastic garbage can is any real obstacle to the little rodents teeth.
Get some ultrasonic pest repellers and aim at the corn storage location.



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MN Bob

08-04-2006 08:20:59




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 Re: Questions on handling corn for a corn stove. in reply to Brian in NY, 08-04-2006 07:55:58  
Brian; Done a lot of research on this, and a friend has a dealership. Most around here pick up a 250 /300 BU gravity wagon, make a tight roof with a door. Use 5 gal pails. Can make or buy a cleaner. Just small screen for the fines to fall out. Fancy ones have a fan to blow them as well. Nice ones for sale with enclosed bin for fines to hold down dust and corn drops into bucket. You can do several buckets in an hour, store those in the basement along with a bag of pellets for startup. Pre-soak the pellets with alcohol for quick easy start in a small tin or cup. Check what they dried the corn down to. 14 or 15 is good. do a google, lots of info from universitys. Bob

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redrunsdeep

08-04-2006 18:06:10




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 Re: Questions on handling corn for a corn stove. in reply to MN Bob, 08-04-2006 08:20:59  
I have delt with a company called J&W Corn Fuel Systems They have alot of storage and screening systems and also a vacuum transfer system that i have and love makes cleaning and moving corn easy.give them a call 517-623-0142 email is jwcornsystems@yahoo.com

The owners name is Jason he is very sharp when it comes to corn burning ect. He is very honest and a good guy to deal with he also saved me several hunderd dollars on my stove by sending me to a good dealer not just someone out to make a ton of sales.

hope this helps

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