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E85 in a Farmall M distillate

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fisherman

07-14-2006 11:30:01




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I read that post below about E85, and was wondering if I could add E85 into my 49 M distillate or more so if it be converted to run on E85. I think that would be pretty neat if it could be done safely.

I've also read in a past post that the distillate fuel "trash gas" or "tractor fuel" consisted of: mix 50% gas, 40% kero and 10% diesel with maybe a touch of Marvel mystery oil-

obviously not gasoline....so pound away with some good sarcatic....YOU DUMMY REMARKs (its friday). I won't get a chance to read this again until Tuesday anyhow.

I know I probable won't ever try the E85 or Distillate fuel in my M but just wondering if it is possible to utilized the '1949 Alternative Energy setup' today in my 1949 M Distillate.... I was hoping this alternative energy might match my Dempster Windmill Alternative Energy water pump :>)

The more I see things change the more they stay the same....

Have a great weekend and thanks- Scott

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Wayne Swenson

07-14-2006 21:09:15




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 Re: E85 in a Farmall M distillate in reply to fisherman, 07-14-2006 11:30:01  
My 1937 "BN" John Deere runs very nicely on E-85. Just had to richen up the mixture screws about 1/3 turn. It is hard starting on straight E-85 but sure has an interesting exhaust odor.
Ethanol is a good solvent so if your fuel tank, lines, & carb are not clean it will clean them out perhaps plugging up a jet along the way. Once your system is clean, you will never need any "de-icer" again.
I have had 10% ethanol blended gasoline in all my vehicles and garden equipment for 20+ years and have had very good luck. I"m a Minnesota resident.

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Leland

07-14-2006 19:59:39




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 Re: E85 in a Farmall M distillate in reply to fisherman, 07-14-2006 11:30:01  
Belive it or not gas will be cheaper to run than E85 ,due to the fact you will have to pour in the E85 to make the same amount of power as gas . Unless 85 is a 1.00 or more per gallon cheaper than your just pouring money down the drain . Belive me as I just traded off a flex fuel truck for something that can get out of it's own way .



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John M

07-14-2006 20:07:44




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 Re: E85 in a Farmall M distillate in reply to Leland, 07-14-2006 19:59:39  
My wifes Buick runs just fine on E85, but its not a trcuk that needs alot of power,and the milage is up slightly and right now E85 is a few cents cheaper at the few stations here that sell it.My B20 I put in my truck has some some improvments in the noise levl and smoothness of the engine, but milage has dropped slightly,and its a few cents more than regular diesel.



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Leland

07-14-2006 20:14:40




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 Re: E85 in a Farmall M distillate in reply to John M, 07-14-2006 20:07:44  
I would watch it Running e85 bacause we have several shops here in town that have several cars and trucks with destroyed fuel systems from using E85 sitting on the lots . But I just don't think we are ready to burn the stuff all the time as my truck a little S-10 got 22 on gas dropped to 14-15 on E85 , so I am waiting until Detroit gets there rear in gear and builds a better engine to burn the stuff .

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John M

07-14-2006 17:40:31




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 Re: E85 in a Farmall M distillate in reply to fisherman, 07-14-2006 11:30:01  
I think some people have misinterpreted your post, or dont know what E85 is. My only concern would be the gaskets in the carb and the intake gasket.Beyond that, I cant think of anything else it could affect.



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RAB

07-14-2006 14:17:39




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 Re: E85 in a Farmall M distillate in reply to fisherman, 07-14-2006 11:30:01  
Don"t know about your side of the pond, but our TVO (Tractor Vapourising Oil) would extinguish a match. I would not think that would be the case with 50% gas in distillate.
A tractor would probably start from near cold on that much gas in the fuel!
I am sure some have used that recipe for running their tractors. I use 70% kero, 20% petrol and 10% diesel if pottering about, straight kero if working hard for my Ollies.
Regards, RAB

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Gerald J.

07-14-2006 12:51:45




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 Re: E85 in a Farmall M distillate in reply to fisherman, 07-14-2006 11:30:01  
So long as the E85 doesn't eat gaskets or floats, and you richen the mixture so it doesn't melt pistons, it should run fine, just like it did in model T's and A's 80 years ago. Just watch out for leaning out with jets too small and go.

Gerald J.



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dej(JED)

07-14-2006 11:47:46




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 Re: E85 in a Farmall M distillate in reply to fisherman, 07-14-2006 11:30:01  
Early refineries weren't interested in gasoline per say. They were after kero or lamp oil mostly. The distillate burner was as you have said a crap burner. I wouldn't go with the exact percentages that you described , but it would be more less in that range. Crudes vary so it would be what was left over after they took out the lamp oil. Heck up in Titisville , Pa., they used to dump it in the creeks to get rid of it. I don't imagine the fishing was much good down stream though.

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