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Polished Stainless Steel for Tractor Exhaust??

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migraine

07-11-2006 20:44:49




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Has anybody used polished SS for exhaust on tractors and will it stay ok with the heat? Wanting to put new stacks on the 1468 V-8 and want to know if this is an option versus chrome. Will it blue out in time like chrome? Thanks Migraine




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KIP in MX

07-12-2006 08:39:44




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 Re: Polished Stainless Steel for Tractor Exhaust?? in reply to migraine, 07-11-2006 20:44:49  
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Not a tractor, but these stacks are around 3 years old and have between 600-700C exhaust flow thru them. They donīt stay shiny very long after new.



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Mike M

07-12-2006 07:04:14




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 Re: Polished Stainless Steel for Tractor Exhaust?? in reply to migraine, 07-11-2006 20:44:49  
I wonder if someone makes, or if you could make a double walled stack with an air gap in between ? Don't know, but this may keep it shiny ?



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RodInNS

07-12-2006 05:06:21




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 Re: Polished Stainless Steel for Tractor Exhaust?? in reply to migraine, 07-11-2006 20:44:49  
Migraine,

Taking T_Bone's temperature values as a guide, I'd say you might be borderline as to whether or not the pipe will "blue". I've got a Ford with a pyro in the pipe off the turbo, and it consistently runs 900+ under load, and up to 1150 on a hard pull. That pump is turned up a lot though. Dunno where the exhaust temp will be on yours.... There would be several factors involved including the length of the pipe, and whether or not it's all exposed to moving air. If it's contained under a lot of hood, then the air circulation potential is not there. On my Ford, I just have a length of aluminised exhaust pipe. Below the hoodline it's going to hell. Above the hood is new (muffler just fell off), but so far it's holding.
If you do go with a straight pipe, be sure to get the outlet above the cab, or you'll not enjoy the sound too much. This old Ford barks like a junkyard dog... but with the pipe above the cab, most of the rasp is gone. Do notice a bit more racket on a hard pull. Bystanders might notice more noise, but in cab, there's little difference. I would also keep th epipe straight. Any bend is likely to run higher temps, or at least discolor more quickly. Look at most any tractor with a curved top in th eexhaust rather than a rain cap. They almost always rust through in the bend. Something to consider anyway.

Rod

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T_Bone

07-11-2006 22:38:11




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 Re: Polished Stainless Steel for Tractor Exhaust?? in reply to migraine, 07-11-2006 20:44:49  
Hi migraine,

In order for the SS to color fast on the outside of the pipe, the pipe would have to be held at a certian temperature for a specific time for a given exhaust temperature and will be dependant on the pipe wall thickness.

On the common 300series SS that temperature should be about 900š too 1100š for about 10min on a sch10 pipe. On a sch40 pipe that may well be 30min or longer.

Sch10 pipe is about .120" wall thickness and Sch40 pipe is about .188 wall thickness.

And then there's the surrounding ambient tempature to consider as well the front of the pipe or the heal of the pipe. The heal will color fix much faster as it's protected from the cooling air of forward movement.

And then there's the velocity of the exhaust gas to consider.

As you can see alot of unpredictables to consider but generally the thicker the pipe wall the less problem with the pipe becoming color fast.

Also my tempatures and heat soak times are ball park numbers.

T_Bone

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Glen in TX

07-11-2006 22:23:05




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 Re: Polished Stainless Steel for Tractor Exhaust?? in reply to migraine, 07-11-2006 20:44:49  
I guess that means all those truckers on the highway got those big diesels in trucks to haul those huge balls ?? LOL Ok, Migraine, you want to talk to Steve Crum over on johnnypopper.com as he makes SS stacks for old tractors and pullers. Thomure in East Prairie, Missouri has been making SS stacks and mufflers for trucks and farm tractors for eons now. I don't have their number handy but you can search for them on puter. Thomure makes many stacks that others in the aftermarket sell too but they don't want everyone to know that. Thomure does a great job on making smooth looking adapters too and can make any pipe you want.

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buickanddeere

07-11-2006 21:04:14




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 Re: Polished Stainless Steel for Tractor Exhaust?? in reply to migraine, 07-11-2006 20:44:49  
Too bright in the eyes in the sun. Too loud on the ears. Too annoying to bystanders. A black stack and muffler beats all. My testicals are big enough without having to prop them up with stainless steel stacks.



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migraine

07-11-2006 21:40:12




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 Re: Polished Stainless Steel for Tractor Exhaust?? in reply to buickanddeere, 07-11-2006 21:04:14  
Your comments don't seem to answer the question I asked, but if it makes you feel better to throw a punch this way I can still move pretty good and make you miss. Congratulations on your testicles. Migraine



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Fawteen

07-12-2006 01:52:56




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 Re: Polished Stainless Steel for Tractor Exhaust?? in reply to migraine, 07-11-2006 21:40:12  
Good answer! ROFLMAO!



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buickanddeere

07-12-2006 15:28:52




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 Re: Polished Stainless Steel for Tractor Exhaust?? in reply to Fawteen, 07-12-2006 01:52:56  
So feel the need to have people look at you and pay attention? Loud pipes will do it.



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migraine

07-12-2006 07:36:23




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 Re: Polished Stainless Steel for Tractor Exhaust?? in reply to Fawteen, 07-12-2006 01:52:56  
Thanks for the replies so far. These stacks are all on the outside vertical straight out of the manifolds 5 to 6 feet high on the I.H. 550 V-8. I doubt if I get it hot enough to discolor and it is not turboed so may be an alternative plan. We have several dairy supply service companies here that stock and supply this polished product to the dairy industry. Thanks Migraine



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