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Electric fence help (update)

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Fudpucker

06-25-2006 07:07:44




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Thanks for all the response to my question yesterday. I have looked at each insulator and connection in corners. I found on corner that I could hear popping a little so I replaced the polywire and it stopped. I disconnected the fence and each connection by itself was strong 6.9 to 8.7 when testing this I just had it grounded on one T post. The fence is 9 coming out of the charger. I have it grounded with two pieces of re-bar and one T post. I plan to get some real ground rods Monday. The reading on the meter is the same if I have it grounded on all three rods as it is when I have it just grounded to the post the charger is sitting on alone. My reading is now 5.0 on the fence about a foot from the charger and 3.9 at the end of the fence. when I walked around the fence testing it the reading just seemed to drop off a little at each splice and dropped most when the fence goes from wire to ploy wire. I am hoping the ground rods will clear this up. Thanks again!
Fud

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Ol Chief

06-25-2006 19:39:21




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 Re: Electric fence help (update) in reply to Fudpucker, 06-25-2006 07:07:44  
In my part of the country I have had continuous problems with spiders building white fuzzy egg nests at the attaching point where insulator meets the T post.These have goten moist and grounded and sometimes arced and fried the insulator.Mostly cured the problem with the extention style insulators.



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Fudpucker

06-25-2006 14:07:34




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 Re: Electric fence help (update) in reply to Fudpucker, 06-25-2006 07:07:44  
I did touch it just to see what it would do. I think it will keep my cows in due to it being a back up for my regular fence and the power source for my rotational grazing system. It jolted me, but not that bad. It did get me this morning when I had just on part of the fence hooked up at about 6:00a.m. with a heavy dew. Man that hurt! All of the insulators are the yellow plastic type with screw on ring on the back and some round white ones on the corners. Thanks and good day!
Fud

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Bill of TN

06-25-2006 10:18:30




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 Re: Electric fence help (update) in reply to Fudpucker, 06-25-2006 07:07:44  
Good deal! I don't know if adding a ground is going to help you as far a voltage drop, but will probably make your system more consistant as far as delivering the "punch".....Have you touched it to see if you need another ground?

The first time I got hit by mine it had just rained.....felt like a heavy weight punched me....knocked me back about four steps and took me a few seconds to recover....

You should have seen the calf when he stuck his tounge on it!

I'd be interested to know how your test comes out after improving your ground system.....

Good luck.....

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TimS

06-25-2006 10:22:28




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 Re: Electric fence help (update) in reply to Bill of TN, 06-25-2006 10:18:30  
Most of your voltage drops will come from splices...just have to make them as solid as you can.



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RodInNS

06-25-2006 11:02:51




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 Re: Electric fence help (update) in reply to TimS, 06-25-2006 10:22:28  
Yes, splices are bad, especially in polywire.
The other thing that I found bad was the single nail Black Widow insulators. They will routinely arc through the insulator to the nail. I always use a 2 nail insulator on HT fence.

Rod



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Mike (WA)

06-26-2006 09:02:52




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 Re: Electric fence help (update) in reply to RodInNS, 06-25-2006 11:02:51  
Don't know if the name is Black Widow or not, but I was using round posts I made out of rebar, and the black insulators with a spring-steel strap with two holes, you squeeze the ends toward each other to line up the holes, and slide them down the round post. Anyhow, those insulators tend to be useless. About a third of one bag would short through, and unless you moved the wire away from the plastic (with insulated pliers) so it would spark, it didn't make a sound. Very annoying troubleshooting til I finally figured it out.

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