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A little O-T but has to do with the farm

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old

06-16-2006 10:55:34




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Well since mother nature ripped my hay barn apart back in march and I have had time to rebuild it I need to sort of make a poor mans hay barn till this fall. Heres what I'm thinking of doing. I will lay pallet on the ground and then put the hay on them. Mostly big round bales, and some squares if all works out. Then I plan on takeing some pallets and laying them on top of the bales and put a tarp over all of that. Do you guys think that will work or maybe have other ideas. I have also thought about takeing some of this round rod I have 20 each and welding them so there 40 foot long and then sort of making a half circle and cover that with a tarp. Which would work better??
Thanks for any ideas.

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Hal/WA

06-16-2006 17:06:59




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 Re: A little O-T but has to do with the farm in reply to old, 06-16-2006 10:55:34  
Sorry to hear about your hay barn. I suppose there is no time now to replace it, what with haying season and other spring/summer chores.

Growing up, I lived on a small ranch. We had a pretty good barn and I have stacked many thousands of the small square bales in it, clear to the rafters. A few exceptional hay years, we had too much to fit in the barn, and so had to stack the excess outside.

The way our feeder was set up, we ended up dragging bales down the feed bunk and opening them more or less where they would be fed. So our outside stack was always just outside the back door of the barn for convenience. We always fed the outside hay first, since it was the least protected from the weather. My Dad had a huge canvas tarp that we draped over the pyramided stack. The tarp was very heavy, especially when it was raining or there was snow on it. I was always glad when the outside stack was gone and I didn't have to fight that darn tarp anymore!

It was also a pain trying to tie the tarp down. We didn't have anything like bungee cords, but mostly used baling wire or rope that would fit through the grommets in the tarp. I remember one time the wind was real strong and hit the stack just right and pulled the whole tarp off and away over the field--what a pain in the rear to fix that mess!

Anyhow, I don't know where you live or how much precipitation you get, but it sounds like tarping your hay is your only good option this year. I like the idea of using pallets to keep the hay off the ground. I don't know how much of a problem it will make to move the large bales--I would worry about the pallets freezing down here and making it so you couldn't drive a tractor there.

I have found that the cheap, thin blue tarps work pretty well in the short term, especially if you run rope over top of them a few times, to prevent the tarp flapping in the wind. You still have to tie them down real well, though. If you get much snow where you are, I predict that you will get real tired of those tarps before the winter is over...

Hope you can get a new hay barn built. Good luck!

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woodache

06-16-2006 14:55:35




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 Pallets on the ground Re:A little O-T but has to d in reply to old, 06-16-2006 10:55:34  
Pallets on the ground : I have stacked a lot of hey on pallets on the ground outside. If you are in a relitive dry area you can get by with 1 layer of pallets but if you are in a wet area like I was (western WA) you need 2 layers as they sink in the ground from the weight. Second make sure if you can, you use pallets made from Fir if you are in a wet area, hard wood especily Oak and soft Popular pallets rots very fast. Had to cover stacks before ANY rain on the stacks or it would mold quickly. ( standard small square bails)

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Pooh Bear

06-16-2006 13:04:27




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 Re: A little O-T but has to do with the farm in reply to old, 06-16-2006 10:55:34  
My neighbor stacks his round bales pyramid style.
10 to a stack. 4 then 3 then 2 then 1.
He puts them directly on the ground and covers with tarps.
He used to use truck tires for weight but now he
just lays rope on the ground under each stack
and ties to it on both ends. Lets the weight of
the stack hold it all down. Works for him.
Just a couple of weeks ago I helped him put up 400 bales.
His goal is 600 bales before this fall.

Pooh Bear

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Illinois Boy

06-16-2006 13:41:33




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 Re: A little O-T but has to do with the farm in reply to Pooh Bear, 06-16-2006 13:04:27  
Yep - you can do that with round bales and they shed the water pretty good if wrapped tight. Squares will have to have some protection...



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J.C.H.

06-16-2006 11:05:45




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 Re: A little O-T but has to do with the farm in reply to old, 06-16-2006 10:55:34  
I would go with the Pallets and leave the ends open for Vent. If you can find some gravel etc. to make a pad[any thing almost except Limestone] for your base Pallets I think you will have a safe hay crop provided the Wind leaves it alone. Old Car tires for weight works good.My suggestion to your question,good luck,John



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Illinois Boy

06-16-2006 12:30:31




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 Re: A little O-T but has to do with the farm in reply to J.C.H., 06-16-2006 11:05:45  
... I like the pallet idea - and leave the ends ope as John suggests.



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