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Cleaning out a gas tank

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Gord

06-16-2006 09:53:05




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So I am having fun right now. The w-4 started fine to get on the trailer and into my garage and now it wont run. I have a feeling it is a build of debris causing fuel issues in the gas tank because it has been sitting for a very long time. I took the tank off and cleaned it out. The gas was disgustingly dirty and I found a gas can nozzle in the TANK. LOL. Anyway I have hosed it out and I am letting it dry. I cleaned the carb out before because it was gummed up with crap. ANy suggestions? I am sure it is a gas flow issue of some sort. It will start and run fine for 10 secs and then stall out even when I give it more choke. Thanks guys

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woodache

06-16-2006 15:26:40




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 International are the WORST forRe: Cleaning out a in reply to Gord, 06-16-2006 09:53:05  
International gassers are the WORST for rust in the tank, others have galvo in the bottom OLD int dont and seem to rust like crazy. If it will still hold fuel not leaking as when you clean it hole appear sometimes.
Now here is one way to fix you put a chem called OSHPO's or Limeaway in the tank let it set for a few days. These chemicals contain Phosphoric Acid and Chemicaly convert Iron oxide back into Iron metal. Any product that contains Phosphoric Acid Osphos can be had at good paint stores $20 per gal Limeaway at most grocery store and Walmart $12 gal
CLR works too. Then when you get it back together and using get some LEAD BUCK best the biggest you can get like 00 (note MUST not be small enough to go in the fuel outlet) shot put a hand full in the tank. This does several things. As it rolls around it rolls of any loose pieces (these go to your sed bowl & require constant observation). 2 the outside of the lead rolling off, coates the tank to prevent further rust, 3 some of the loose lead asorbed by the fuel, will run through the engine replacing the Lost lead in the No lead fuel and help prevent stuck or burned valves,.

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Gord

06-16-2006 17:17:37




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 Re: International are the WORST forRe: Cleaning ou in reply to woodache, 06-16-2006 15:26:40  
Just Lead Buck as in Buckshot?

Thanks for all you help guys.



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woodache

06-17-2006 05:47:54




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 Re: International are the WORST forRe: Cleaning ou in reply to Gord, 06-16-2006 17:17:37  
Just lead as in buck shoot, the softer and bigger the better 00 = .380 aprox . Now if you do get leaks you will either have to patch them or coat them with one of the many good coating produts out there. I have NOT had good luck with epoxy like JB weld put on the outside of the tank since the NO lead fuel come out, those fixes just seem to melt away with time.



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Gord

06-16-2006 10:50:45




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 Re: Cleaning out a gas tank in reply to Gord, 06-16-2006 09:53:05  
Thanks guys. I was wondering if anyone knew of a product you can put in a gas tank that will coat it with a rust inhibitor? I think they use it in old cars and stuff.



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TimV

06-16-2006 18:00:44




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 Re: Cleaning out a gas tank in reply to Gord, 06-16-2006 10:50:45  
POR-15 is supposed to make a good tank coat. Haven't used it personally, but have used other products of theirs with excellent success. It's spendy like all of their stuff, but probably cheaper than a new tank. I believe that Kreem is the brand name of the stuff a lot of old car and motorcycle folks use. A well-stocked auto parts store will often carry it.

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RustyFarmall

06-16-2006 14:29:46




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 Re: Cleaning out a gas tank in reply to Gord, 06-16-2006 10:50:45  
There is a product called Red-Coat that is supposed to coat and seal the rust in a gas tank. Someone is selling it on eBay. I have never used it so I can't say if it's good or not.



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RustyFarmall

06-16-2006 10:27:52




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 Re: Cleaning out a gas tank in reply to Gord, 06-16-2006 09:53:05  
I would suggest that you have the tank cleaned with some type of chemical, either take it to a radiator shop and have it done, or do it yourself. Just hosing it out is not going to get the job done. Here's a suggestion to prevent future trouble. Install a short piece of steel fuel line into the inlet of the sediment bowl assembly. This piece needs to rise above the inlet 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch, and then attach a cylinder made of fine mesh brass screen to the top of the steel line. JB weld will hold all of it in place, just be careful that the JB does not get into the inlet. You will end up with a small amount of fuel in the bottom of the tank that you can never use, but this is where the rust and crud will settle, and will never plug up the flow of fuel again.

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DigDugNC

06-17-2006 11:34:30




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 Re: Cleaning out a gas tank in reply to RustyFarmall, 06-16-2006 10:27:52  
Brilliant Idea!!!!, I too have been battling this problem for a while and every so often it clogs my sediment bowl and I have to unscrew the entire bowl from the gas tank to unclog it and of course gas goes everywhere. I know I need to do the job right, but that there sounds like a real nifty quick fix that will work for for a good while until the tank can be fixed permanently, I'm going try that pronto!

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Illinois Boy

06-16-2006 10:03:50




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 Re: Cleaning out a gas tank in reply to Gord, 06-16-2006 09:53:05  
Sounds like fuel issue to me... be sure and check the fuel line and the inlet to the carb.



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Grub0927

06-16-2006 10:02:45




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 Re: Cleaning out a gas tank in reply to Gord, 06-16-2006 09:53:05  
Loved my W-6. A true working machine. Pull the fuel line at the carb and make sure you have a strong stream of fuel coming from the shut-off valve/sediment bulb. You may want to pull it from the tank and be sure the strainer is clear and mine was really sensitive to how much pressure you applied to the bail (bowl clamp)when you secured the sediment bowl. Too tight and it wouldn't flow and we all know that when the gasket is leaking the first reaction is to crank that thing down. Change the gasket.
Be safe around the gas and have fun!

Grub

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