OT - Sealing wood on trailer

If just dirt from a field, good deal I'd say. Be careful of getting debris, or getting gas/oil contaminated soil. It happens....

--->Paul

• Lee the Horse logger

Led

Used to be commercial on the radio that I liked.
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(announcer)
We are here today to do a taste test for these two products. Sir would you mind taking a sip out of these two cups and telling us which one you prefer the taste of.

The gentlmen taste the first cup, "hmm, tastes just like plain old water." He takes a sip of the second cup and immediately spits it out "yuck, what is that stuff."

(announcer)
And there you have it, regular people prefer the taste of good clean water to the taste of used motor oil.

(taste tester)
You gave me motor oil? What is wrong with you. (ranting - fades to silence)

(Another announcer)
Please remember to dispose of used motor oil responsibly.

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I used to laugh everytime I heard that commercial.

One quart of oil can create a one square mile oil slick on a lake or in the ocean.

I have great well water. And a nice river to swim in and boat in and do some fishing.
Please don"t mess that up.

Remember, we all live downstream.

Pooh Bear

Soundguy

When i bought my wood deck 16' car hauler, it's deck lasted less than 2 years and rotted.. was using pt wood, and sat out int he sun and rain.. When i repalced the decking, I again used pt wood, and painted it liberally using a roller with the aspahlt fence paint.. it's going on 5 years now, and the wood is still perfect...

If you like green.. you could use copepr napthenate fence post dip.. though i believe it would be more expensive.. and may not offer the uv protection that the black fence paint does.. howver might have superior bug/fungas resistance..

I'll appologize for being abit of an environmental stickler.. but after the ecology and environmental science courses i took while getting my CE degree.. well.. It doesn't take too many classes about polloution to know it is wrong to intentionally dump used oil ( classified as hazardous waste ) on any surface where it can leach out into the environment. Use doil contains toxic compounds and heavy metals. You got any kids? Elderly parents? Would you intentionally poison them by putting used motor oil in their food? No? well if you dump it out where it can leach.. you are doing the same thing.. just takes longer... and impacts lots of people and animals.. not just a few..

Soundguy

Having an oil line brake on your tractor while mowing is unavoidable.. it happens.. you fix it, and hope it doesn't happen again... Pouring oil out to leach can be prevented.. and should be.

Incedental exposure is going to happen.. hard to stop it.. same with non point polloution sources.. hard to control.. On the other hand.. intentional and point sources of polloution are easier to control.. and should be controlled.

There is no reason why we should 'try' to leave this planet in a worse situation that when we got here...

Again.. I realize the first post was heavy.. but was worded that way only due to the extreme importance of the subject material.

Soundguy

Soundguy

I worked for a major railroad for 27 years (CSX Transportation, the largest east of the Mississippi), and the facility has been there for over a hundred. I knew people who worked there for 40+ years and there is a bedroom community nearby that sprang up around the railroad yard. Never did see anybody fall over from 'Hazardous Waste' contamination, nor know of anybody complaining the railroad poisoned them. My work clothing and shoes followed me home everyday for 27 years....not a soul in my household has died from the dread diesel fuel and grease and oil....let alone all the goodies transported in the tank cars, etc.

Had the Nazi's won and recorded history, I doubt there would have been much mention of Auschwitz and Birkenau and Treblinka....therefore history is written according to the victors. Those text books written by and used by the tree hugging enviromentalists to brainwash their students are in the same vein. Create some enviromental doomsday theory and espouse it as gospel and spoonfeed it to the gulible..... who swallow it hook, line, and sinker. Extremism is dangerous in any light..... ..and the EPA is the enviro Gestapo.....the White Shirts.

The GC I work for has been involved in cleaning up contaminated land.. We've done a weight station and a train station in the last decade.. the train station BY FAR had the worst contamination. Only worse I' have ever seen was an underground tank at a fuel station ( benzene levels for quite a ways around the station were extremely elevated.. and benzene is not nice to living tissue.. ) And the worst is a tie between an old unlined landfill and an old paint production facility. The landfill started having bad water tests around the area.. everyhting from battery's to old refer equipment had been in there. It's bad enough that they are considering excavating and lining it.. not to mention everyone was hooked up to city water as soon as the reports started coming out. The paint facility? So bad they are not even digging it up for fear of causing further exposure. Can't use well water for miles around it... It looks like a wasteland in that remote area of where town used to be.

(poloution) It's plain chemical science. Proclaiming it doesn't exist then bring up nazi germany doesn't change the physical facts one bit. Look at CFC's and PCB's chlorflourcarbons.. I'll eave it as an exercise to investigate how many ozone molecules are destroyed by a SINGLE cfc molecule... and poly chlorinated biphenols.. nice stuff there... as good for you as benzene... Makes chromated copper arsenate leaching issues on playgrounds look almost 'ok'...

Soundguy

I have MSDS sheets available for those that think this prime coat is used motor oil. I've been working for this same GC for 13 years now.

Next issue is dust control oil. It is -also- -NOT- used motor oil.. again.. MSDS sheets are available.

I've heard from a few people that they thought their city put used motor oil down on the roads for this or that. As far as i can tell.. at least in my area, it has never been done. Our public works director for the city and county remember work from the 50's and don't recall ever using used motor oil.. etc.

Driveway and parking lot seal coats are not much more than water emulsified or solvent thinned bituminous products that cure to an environmentally inert state.. just like asphalt fence paint...

For those of you that think that your municipality is putting used motor oil down on your road.. here is some info.. motor oil, diesel fuel, brake fluid and hyd fluid will disolve the binder in asphalt. You doubt? Walk a road and pick up a few chenks of asphalt.. put them on some carbboard and douse each one with the specified materials... check them in a day and see if they are not softer.

Liquid or heated aspahlt seal and tack or emulsion coats will -not- disolve the asphalt...

Soundguy