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OT : calving paralysis

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Teddy (punchie)

05-30-2006 04:18:19




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I have a heifer that had trouble calving, loss calf and took us hours to pull the calf. He was about 95-100 pounds from a 1200 pound heifer. Calf should have been 75-80 tops. Genex Lucky Dice .

How long should we wait for this to pass, Patch's (her name) Does eat and drink well and does try to walk and made it from field to barn ( 500 ft.) but not to the shall. So she is in a stanction area and we tried for 3 hours to move her last evening. We were going to try to get her to a calving shall I have, but were not able.

How long should we wait for her to recover? Pain I would say around 5 or so on a scale to 10, is eating and clam and had a vet come and check her, but most of our vets are horse vets and not cattle people.

As all ways any and all Opinions welcome. Thanks !!
Teddy

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ChadS

01-17-2008 08:17:23




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 Re: E-85 in a Stock M in reply to Lanse, 01-16-2008 09:30:44  

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farmermatt

05-30-2006 08:36:01




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 Re: OT : calving paralysis in reply to Teddy (punchie), 05-30-2006 04:18:19  
If not up after a day or two, we always start hoisting them. Pretty much have to be in a barn for this though. We use a hip clamp on their hip "pins" and hoist em right up with a come-along. Got to get those legs exercised. After time theyll be able to hold them selves up and hopefully soon after be able to stand. Its really alot of work and is successful less then half the times Ive done it. Sometimes it gets to the point of haveing a perfectly healthy animal after 3-4 weeks of treatment but the still no leg movement. Good luck

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Nebraska Cowman

05-30-2006 05:14:26




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 Re: OT : calving paralysis in reply to Teddy (punchie), 05-30-2006 04:18:19  
The best thing you can do is get her outside on the dirt. Grab her tail and help her if she tries at all. If she walked to the barn it can't be all that bad. a few days ought to see her up and going.



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Teddy (punchie)

05-30-2006 07:49:26




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 Re: OT : calving paralysis in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 05-30-2006 05:14:26  
Yes I would say for her to stay out side only trouble is it in the 90.0's here and whent from 60's to 90's in a few days. She gets out in the sun and can not make it to shade and over heats.

Stall she needs get in to is rough and I mean rough concete and I have about 6 " of old hay and fresh hay over that. I use it from time to time for holding and checking cattle.

She moved on her own last night and ate all the hay and most of the grain that was left for her and is drinking 10-13 gals/daily and eating around 5-7 pounds / daily grain, and is calm and in good mood looks out side at the rest of the cows like she would like to be with them. Just too darn hot.

Thanks !! Teddy

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Kent in NB

05-30-2006 05:06:33




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 Re: OT : calving paralysis in reply to Teddy (punchie), 05-30-2006 04:18:19  
Hi Teddy. You have a pinched nerve. It can get better. Takes approx. 11 days for noticeable improvement. Keep her confined to a an area where she can't hurt herself, and is convenient for feed,water, etc.. It takes time and loads of patience to get them through this condition. Keep an eye on temperature, feed intake, and get her to move from side to side. This will help to prevent further problems. Try not to give anything that will leave a drug residue, in case you have to slaughter.( This happens) Good luck.

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R. John Johnson

05-30-2006 05:00:12




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 Re: OT : calving paralysis in reply to Teddy (punchie), 05-30-2006 04:18:19  
You should consult with a vet that knows cattle. If you can't, then give her a couple of days. It sounds like an injury to the nerves. Make sure she has food and water and is passing solids and liquids. Encourage her to stand up, if possible. If you can't get her to stand up, get her to roll over to her other side a couple of times a day. We had a cow in the 70's that had nerve damage from a prolonged calving. Took her weeks to walk, and never walked right again. She would occasionally sway and one rear leg would catch the other as it swung forward. This would cause her to stumble and almost fall, but she would recover.

You should also look long and hard at your bull. If this bull can throw calves this big, keep him away from heifers.

hope this helps.

John

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